Meeting minutes
ACT Standup
Kathy: Met with the CG leads to see how we can move forward with Wilco and Trevor having stepped back from the TF and that's on the agenda later. We'll provide more details. Also looked into the issue with the transcript needing to be visible.
Helen: Also in the meeting with the CG leads. I have been working on a PR, but got a note from Jean-Yves with comments. Trying to move forward with the PRs one at a time.
Daniel: Also in the CG meeting. Also worked with Kathy on the agenda and some coordination work for the TF. Some work related to the 1.1 format.
Catherine: Item on the spreadsheet I was assigned and started working on it.
Tom: Worked on the keyboard trap rules
… We may be getting a colleague of mine that may become a TF participant
Kathy: Someone expressed interest to Daniel to join the TF
Tom: I was at AccessU last week, and heard someone interested in joining, but not sure if they were clear on the meeting times, so people looking, but not sure if they're finding it
ACT Rules Format 1.1 FPWD - Daniel
<dmontalvo> w3c/
Daniel: Issue for AGWG to review updates to the format. Have more feedback than last time we talked about it. We have 9 +1's.
… Just looking to move to the next step which is a CFC. Good news.
Daniel: You can add your thumbs up, like a +1
Helen: Related to AccessU. Used to be that there was a morning TF meeting, and then another one on the European side at a different time, so might be some old information out there.
Discussion with CG leads
Kathy: We met with Jean-Yves and Carlos who lead the CG. What we found is that we have on the CG side, sometimes they don't have an agenda because there aren't PRs to work on, so they end up cancelling, but they seem to have good attendance. But on our side, we've had a few meeting with low attendance.
… What we discussed is how to move forward a little better. Some ideas discussed are having our groups meet together so that we can have higher attendance and have some exchange of ideas with those in rule development and updates. Seemed like people were in favor, but need to figure out meeting times.
… What we left with was thinking we'd meet during their CG meeting times, which would be an hour later than ours.
… We wanted to check with who's here on meeting time.
Catherine: My meetings are usually pretty full anyway. 8am vs 9am won't make much of a difference.
Tom: I think that works better for me
Helen: We're entering into summer breaks, so things may be different for the summer.
Kathy: We also wouldn't meet every week. CG only meets twice a month. TF can meet extra if we want to, but I think we'd switch our regular schedule to twice a month. Then we can call a meeting outside of that if we like. May be a temporary thing as we work through the summer.
… We can re-assess when the summer is over.
Daniel: And we'll be sending a survey to the mailing list for both groups. Please fill in the survey when it comes out.
Helen: Jean-Yves and Carlos did mention that might bring too much, but we can break into rooms as mini-working groups as needed.
… Part of the issue the CG was having because didn't have enough to work on.
… Will be more active rather than listening meetings.
Kathy: We also talked about having the meetings as working sessions, so can use the meeting time to work on PRs and ask questions. For instance, if working on a PR and the author is at a meeting, we can just ask questions.
Tom: When would we start this?
Kathy: Next CG meeting is June 13. That's their meeting week. We can meet until that and then adjust to their schedule.
… I think we're moving towards moving.
Tom: I have some vacation coming up, I'll be out next week and the week of June 13.
<dmontalvo> scribe+ Tom: Will be off next week and the week of june 13th
Tom: Will be off next week and the week of june 13th
Kathy: Part of what I think is beneficial with the merge is I'll be out the last two weeks of June. Helen, can you confirm the meetings? 2nd and 4th Thursday?
Helen: Yes
Daniel: June 13, and 27th
Kathy: Tom would miss one, I'd miss one.
… Do you think we should have another meeting of the task force?
… Over the next couple of months, will be as needed. We might not have as much need over the summer due to people will be busy covering for those on holiday. At the same time, if we didn't get enough done, we can call a followup meeting.
Cathine: How are the CG meetings run? Are they pretty efficient? More people can sometimes make it harder to get things accomplished
Helen: If there's enough people, we flip to a queue system.
… Attendance varies. Last one had 7. So probably 10-11.
Kathy: Generally I think the discussions... I've only attended a handful of CG meetings. They set an agenda. Discussion can lean toward the more technical. They spend more time focusing on rules, editing and creating them. May be good for us to get more exposure there.
Daniel: We'll send an email out to both lists. Will close that probably Monday.
Kathy: Other suggestion was that we could adjust to a half hour later.
… We used to have some west coast attendees, but this is early for them.
Review spreadsheet Updates needed
<kathy> https://
Catherine: Question... HTML page language subtag matches default language. Like I said in our standup, and just opened this up and started. Looking at the answers and conclusions. There weren't any conclusions listed, so not sure what I should take up and need to do.
Kathy: Along the bottom if you scroll to the right, should be a tab for the rule.
… Looks like duplicated tabs for some reason. One has comments, the other doesn't.
… Use the "survey default lang"
Catherine: Okay, that makes sense now.
Daniel: Maybe we should just hide the other one
Tom: I ran into Matt King at AccessU and prodded him regarding the ARIA required context role. Trying to get resolution on the scenario of generic between container and child ARIA role
Working session
Kathy: What we thought was if you needed some time with any of us available while you're working, we'd use the remainder of the meeting to work on tasks. But, if you'd rather, you can sign off. Some of us will stay on to discuss tasks.
… Do we need scribe?
Helen: We can end the official meeting and end scribing.