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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

ACTION: addison: complain to plh about the new IRC tool

<gb> Created action #100

Agenda Review

Action Items

<addison> #99

<gb> Action 99 ping unicode about emphasis skip property (see our #530) (on aphillips) due 2024-05-28

<addison> #98

<gb> Action 98 fix code points examples in lang-bidi-use-cases (on r12a) due 2024-05-23

<addison> #93

<gb> Action 93 create best practices for consumers in string-meta (on aphillips) due 2024-04-25

<addison> #90

<gb> Action 90 steal some of henri's text from scroll-to-text-fragment for string-search (on aphillips) due 2024-04-18

<addison> #89

<gb> Action 89 update i18n specs to support dark mode (on xfq) due 2024-04-18

<addison> #87

<gb> Action 87 write to IETF ADs about RFC9457 with JcK's assistance (on aphillips) due 2024-04-04

<addison> #79

<gb> Action 79 schedule a follow-up call with WHATNOT in ~April (on aphillips) due 2024-03-07

<addison> #78

<gb> Action 78 compare infra to i18n-glossary export list and report back (on aphillips) due 2024-03-07

<addison> #43

<gb> Action 43 pull together the list of win/mac/etc apis for setting base direction and/or language (on aphillips) due 2023-09-18

<addison> #33

<gb> Action 33 Close issues marked `close?` or bring to WG for further review (on aphillips)

<addison> #8

<gb> Action 8 Follow up on the status of Canvas and formatted text (on aphillips) due 18 Jul 2023

<addison> #7

<gb> Action 7 Remind shepherds to tend to their awaiting comment resolutions (Evergreen) (on aphillips, xfq, himorin, r12a, bert-github) due 18 Jul 2023

Info Share

JcK: BCP 47 is under control. It was inconsistent, but IANA now working on it.

RADAR Review

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1

addison: One new incoming request, HTML Ruby extensions. Who can review?

xfq: I can. Maybe Richard, too?

Pending Issue Review

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues

string-meta explainer

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-discuss/blob/gh-pages/explainers/string-meta-explainer.md

addison: Richard had a bunch of comments, but he is not here today.
… I usedmy own graphic for the example with ‘covid-19’.

xfq: You removed the footnotes?

addison: Yes, they became links in the text.

atsushi: the last char in Japanese & Chinese example looks unusual for Japanese.

<xfq> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hy%C5%8Dgai_kanji

addison: Is there a similar char to use instead?

atsushi: Need to think about it...

addison: So we should probably nudge Richard to look at the examples.

<xfq> in my system they are rendered using "Hiragino Kaku Gothic ProN" and "PingFang TC" fonts, and their glyphs are different

<addison> (characters is U+5794 垔)

addison: I'll nudge Richard.

needs-attention issue review

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Aneeds-attention

<addison> i18n-activity#8

<gb> Issue 8 i18n-ISSUE-429: "valid" language tag (by r12a) [s:webvtt] [close?] [tracker] [needs-attention] [wg:timed-text] [cg:texttracks]

addison: As part of my reviewing issues labeled with ‘close?’.
… I don't think WebVTT is going to change. I propose we close the issue.

<atsushi> +1 to close

<xfq> https://www.w3.org/TR/webvtt1/

<addison> https://www.w3.org/TR/webvtt/#caption-text

atsushi: Still in CR

<xfq> https://www.w3.org/TR/webvtt1/#webvtt-cue-language-span

addison: Our comment is to be clearer about what ‘valid’ means. Otherwise nothing wrong about that note.

xfq: It is a requirement for the *author*, isn't it?

addison: They say implementations do not need to check.
… I think we're OK with saying that the tag must be ‘valid’

<addison> i18n-activity#46

<gb> Issue 46 i18n-ISSUE-391: Quotation Marks are Different in Other Languages (by r12a) [s:dpub-pagination] [needs-attention] [needs-resolution] [t:typ_misc] [ig:publishing]

addison: The repo for dpub-pagination is gone. Maybe part of dpub now?

xfq: Give me an action to find out the history and see if we can do anything.

ACTION: xfq: research what if anything to do with dpub-pagination comments and old DPIG comments

<gb> Created action #101

xfq: This one is about our latin layout requirements document.
… Keep the issue open for now.

<addison> i18n-activity#78

<gb> Issue 78 i18n-ISSUE-464: 'label' needs direction and language metadata (by r12a) [close?] [s:mediacapture-streams] [needs-attention] [needs-resolution] [t:bidi_strings] [t:lang_strings] [wg:webrtc]

<addison> mediacapture-main#665

<gb> Issue 665 'label' needs direction and language metadata (by xfq) [i18n-needs-resolution]

addison: We said last year we were not satisfied. Their issue is still open.

xfq: They asked for real situations.

addison: I'm limited by the devices I have when I need to make examples.

xfq: Makes sense to remove the needs-attention and close? labels.

<addison> i18n-activity#590

<gb> Issue 590 advance is measured as distance up to left side of character #3994 (by r12a) [tracker] [s:html] [needs-attention] [whatwg]

addison: Issue is still open. Does not need the needs-attention label?

<addison> i18n-activity#758

<gb> Issue 758 The lang attribute and user input (by himorin) [tracker] [s:html] [needs-attention] [whatwg]

addison: My last comment from Sep 2019 is that this may be equivalent to dirname attribute. Leave it alone?

<addison> i18n-activity#1026

<gb> Issue 1026 Add hyphenation-hint as HTML-element (by w3cbot) [tracker] [s:html] [needs-attention] [i:hyphenation] [whatwg]

<addison> i18n-activity#1376

<gb> Issue 1376 multiple natural language text fields share language/direction [I18N] (by w3cbot) [close?] [s:appmanifest] [needs-attention] [needs-resolution] [t:lang_negotiation] [wg:webapps]

addison: Parent issue is closed, but they have done work on it since.
… Anyone knows the status?

xfq: I think there is another issue about this, but I don't know which.

<xfq> w3c/manifest#1045

<gb> Issue 1045 Web Manifest Overrides (by marcoscaceres) [i18n-tracker] [TPAC2023]

addison: The document in TR still has the problem.

xfq: This ^^ is a tracker issue, but maybe it's this one.

addison: I'll comment in their 968 asking if 1045 is the one tracking it.
… I'll remove ‘needs-attention’ and cite 1045.

xfq: Also add needs-resolution to 1045?

addison: Yes

<addison> i18n-activity#1620

<gb> Issue 1620 [focusgroup] i18n: should arrow key navigation follow text direction? (by w3cbot) [close?] [tracker] [needs-attention] [s:open-ui] [cg:open-ui]

addison: Question is if arrow key navigation follows text direction.
… It is more complex than the summary.
… Should we ping alreq and have bidi people review it?

xfq: Yes, probably.

ACTION: addison: ping alreq group to review our i18n-activity#1620

<gb> Created action #102

<addison> i18n-activity#1758

<gb> Issue 1758 Reference for punycode-encoding of IDN (by w3cbot) [needs-attention] [needs-resolution] [s:rdf-concepts] [wg:rdf-star]

addison: You worked on this, Fuqiao?

xfq: Yes, I commented on it. And on specdev.

addison: I'll remove the needs-attention label.

AOB?