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WoT-WG/IG

Minutes

McCool: Minutes approved in chairs call

-> April-03

McCool: Any objections?

Jan: change "sync" vs "async" actions

Kaz: fixed

McCool: No other changes -> minutes approved

Quick Items

Proposed WoT IG charter under review

McCool: Charter still under review

<kaz> review results (Member-only)

Kaz: 15 positive answers and 3 abstains

McCool: May want to reach out to people that didn't respond yet

Kaz: Yes, we could send reminder
… we need 5 more

Sebastian: Should ping Oracle, MS, ...

McCool: Intel is also missing, will ping my AC rep

Project Management Proposal

<kaz> proposed project management policy

McCool: Older item..

Ege: Plan to present it in main call

McCool: Please do so now

Ege: Figure with explanations
… step 0 is most important .. we need issue
… use-case needed also (if it is not coming from use case TF)
… step 4 -> assign it to people
… step 5 -> someone starts work and has priority
… other steps are as usual ... work on solution
… for categorization we want to use GitHub projects

Ege: after step 5 is in agenda of meeting

McCool: I think we need a "rejected" box

Ege: can do that after step 1

Kaz: I am okay with this proposal
… anyhow, we can think about next steps
… e.g., bringing proposal back to main call

McCool: helpful to clean-up categorization
… e.g., labels w.r.t. security
… align them across other task forces

McCool: I think we can start and test the process in TD taskforce

Kaz: I suggest to have a note about how to deal with other task forces

Ege: I am a bit confused
… I think the proposal is ready and we should start the process
… I already cleaned up some label w.r.t. colors etc

Kaz: IF we are okay as the whole group ...
… that is fine.. but should be recorded as a RESOLUTION
… should think about other task forces

Ege: some more information: tables are ideas how GH project might work

<mm> proposal: Accept process defined in https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/blob/main/proposals/project-management/project-management.md#proposal-from-ege-korkan with the addition of an "Issue Rejected" arc from box 1; this will be initially tested in the TD TF only and if necessary refined.

Daniel: The fragment link should be changed

McCool: Yes, but after resolution

Kaz: I am okay

RESOLUTION: Accept process defined in https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/blob/main/proposals/project-management/project-management.md#proposal-from-ege-korkan with the addition of an "Issue Rejected" arc from box 1; this will be initially tested in the TD TF only and if necessary refined.

Ege: can become an official process later

McCool: Yes

AC meeting

Kaz: Various discussions
… some related to WoT and smart city
… also suggestions to improve W3C workflow
… we can bring our results back to TAG/AB, etc.

McCool: Process doesn't say anything about timing

Kaz: We can still wait a bit until we add further clarifications

P2P communication proposal

McCool: Sidenote about new proposal that pops up
… will create entry etc

Luca: about external feedback
… had discussion with biscuitsecframework ...
… good for showcase on-boarding

McCool: on-boarding needs more understanding on our side

<luca_barbato> https://www.Biscuit.org/

Notices

Smart Cities IG Charter

<kaz> Web-based Digital Twins Smart City IG Draft Charter

Kaz: Charter has been updated
… and is under wide review

McCool: timeline?

Kaz: wide review usually lasts 2 weeks or so
… expecting AC review will start some time in May
… so deadline of the AC review would be some time in June

Siemens Press release about converge DTDL with W3C Thing Description

Siemens Press release about converge DTDL with W3C Thing Description

McCool: press release came out, and was a bit surprised

Sebastian: Press release just reflects the work between Siemens and Microsoft
… Microsoft relies on DTDL
… Siemens relies on TD
… we have joint consumers
… we worked on comparison
… outcome: there is no big difference
… some terms might be different.. but meaning is the same
… a tool exists that converts TD to DTDL and viceversa
… tools is open source
… we work on the small differences to align
… e.g. the comment term

Erich: we were not allowed to go public first... that might be the surprise
… there were several paths discussed

McCool: I am all for the collaboration between TD and DTDL
… however, should have had group resolution and plan

Erich: now we can talk more freely about it

Kaz: First of all, I'm afraid this topic is a bit delicate and I'm not 100% sure how to record this. However, probably we should record the discussion during this call within the public minutes anyway.

<Tomo> +1 for kaz

Koster: share same concern

McCool: Okay let's go through the process

Erich: I am open to rejoining the WG

Sebastian: my proposal would be to give overview
… maybe in TD call or separate call

McCool: Next week is not good because of Hannover fair .. what about 2 weeks

Erich: comparison is documented in details
… can send link

https://github.com/barnstee/WoDTT/blob/main/comparison.md

Erich: May 1st or 2nd?

Erich: holiday in Germany ...

Lagally: I am thrilled by announcement
… industry adoption is very important
… maybe link to conversion tool might be good?

<Ege> wot-oss/wot-dtdl-converter

Erich: no decisions have been made w.r.t. comparisons etc

Kaz: w.r.t. comparison: the whole WoT group might want to collect information about others like ECHONET, etc., also
… a comparison page might be useful

McCool: Yes, we need a migration plan also

Meetups

WoT CG

McCool: Meetup 16th of May about W3C Solid (https://solidproject.org/

WoT JP CG

McCool: doing event planning

Meeting Schedule Changes

Cancellations

McCool: Decided not to call Hannover fair week
… golden week in May
… in Japan

McCool: suggest to move Comparison call on May 8
… TD call is cancelled today
… tomorrow there will be a TD call

McCool: May 1 is cancelled
… unavailable that week

Lagally: When is next main call about Press release and DTDL

McCool: May 8

Kaz: Please update Scripting cancellations

Daniel: Will do

JSON Schema

McCool: JSON schema becoming standard?
… I support it
… we need group resolution

Ege: will work on text to share

<kaz> (then group review and group resolution)

McCool: Can take a look as a group

F2F planning

McCool: June is bad
… European championship event
… Siemens suggest to defer to November

Kaz: TPAC is in US this year

<kaz> TPAC 2024 info

McCool: Virtual F2F in June?
… face-to-face in Munich for some people
… TPAC is in September

Sebastian: planned for end of November ... not so close to TPAC
… industry event in Berlin

Lagally: We're out of time, and so we should discuss this next week again. It sounds to me we should create a doodle poll to clarify people' availability.

McCool: +1

Kaz: +1

TF reports

Kaz: We're already out of time, so let's skp the TF reports.