W3C

– DRAFT –
DXWG CNEG Telecon

23 August 2023

Attendees

Present
LarsG, nicholascar, pchampin, roba, YoucTagh
Regrets
-
Chair
roba
Scribe
LarsG

Meeting minutes

https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2023.08.23

PROPOSED: Approve minutes

<pchampin> +0

<YoucTagh> +1

https://www.w3.org/2023/08/09-dxwg-minutes.html

+1

<roba> +1

RESOLUTION: Minutes approved

Check status of actions from last meeting

https://www.w3.org/2023/08/09-dxwg-minutes.html#ActionSummary

roba: LarsG has created PR which is approved

LarsG: will ping kcoyle to ask for input

roba: #23, #26 and #27 not yet addressed

roba: No discussion wich nicholascar on #32 yet

nicholascar: don't like full URIs here
… AltP is not correct any more
… should be AltR

roba: cpnr is defined in the document but altr isn't

ACTION: nicholascar to address #32

pchampin: is replacement of altp with altr correct?
… we usually have a table with all prefixes in the document

nicholascar: will tend to that

YoucTagh: revised #44

nicholascar: sceptical of solution
… canonical should be the default
… everything else is alternate

roba: will not implement preferred
… so there will be no implementation evidence
… thus feature at risk

nicholascar: seems like an error in our document

YoucTagh: Intention is to flag the preferred representation for a specific dimension
… canonical is the global fallback
… but we need a way to show which is the best representation
… for a specific combination of dimensions

pchampin: Agree that only one canonical allowed
… so we need something else to convey the semantics
… at the moment we have no way to convey the input dimensions

YoucTagh: that's what the "dim" is for

roba: Currently no driver for "preferred"

nicholascar: There is order of presedence (profle, media type)
… in the model there are default formats for each media type
… we _can_ push this to any dimension (incl. lang)

roba: have implemented slightly differently
… giving error message instead of default
… do YoucTagh have use cases to support the proposal?

YoucTagh: Not now. Solution emerged from our last discussion

roba: Will catch up with nicholascar to see that their implementations
… are similar and adhere to the spec
… we still keep #44 open until the multiple "canonical" is resolved

Review of §7.1

YoucTagh: Have reviewed the text
… in the context of #7
… still unclear if "the profile" refers to "data profile"
… or to "functional profile". Is that on purpose?

roba: Should be "functional profile"

YoucTagh: Spec talks of "human browser"
… we can use URLs without human browsers, however,
… also conforming (with|to) - confusing for non-native speakers -
… Listing in spec (Code listing 1) is not consistent with TTL file

nicholascar: will take care of that

ACTION: nicholascar to find solution for automatic linking of external content

pchampin: All documents in /TR must be self-contained
… there is now an automated process for document publication
… for documents in draft status

<pchampin> PROPOSED: use Echidna to auto-publish working drafts from branch gh-pages

<nicholascar> +1

<roba> +1

<pchampin> +1

<YoucTagh> +1

pchampin: the point is to publish all EDs as WDs

+1

RESOLUTION: use Echidna to auto-publish working drafts from branch gh-pages

ACTION: pchampin to set up echidna to auto-publish working drafts from branch gh-pages

YoucTagh: cnpr:rrd is not clear
… this is already implied when implementing http or qsa

nic

holascar: It implies a hierarchy. We need a diagram to describe it

roba: It seems that the terminology as such is fine.
… We need PRs to fix the minor issues
… then we can mark the issue as due-for-closing
… and high-light it to the group

ACTION: roba to update §7.1 based on YoucTagh's feedback

<roba> https://github.com/w3c/dx-connegp/issues

Next meeting

nicholascar: We should look at the implementation report

roba: Also #37

nicholascar: Can prepare text for that

roba: We cannot assign tasks to nicholascar
… can pchampin have a look at that?

pchampin: Will look into that

ACTION: pchampin to check why we cannot assign tasks to nicholascar

Summary of action items

  1. nicholascar to address #32
  2. nicholascar to find solution for automatic linking of external content
  3. pchampin to set up echidna to auto-publish working drafts from branch gh-pages
  4. roba to update §7.1 based on YoucTagh's feedback
  5. pchampin to check why we cannot assign tasks to nicholascar

Summary of resolutions

  1. Minutes approved
  2. use Echidna to auto-publish working drafts from branch gh-pages
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 221 (Fri Jul 21 14:01:30 2023 UTC).

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Maybe present: holascar

All speakers: holascar, LarsG, nicholascar, pchampin, roba, YoucTagh

Active on IRC: LarsG, nicholascar, pchampin, roba, YoucTagh