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pkra: agenda items
… * update on spec markup for advice for AT (jnurthen)
… review updates to Valerie's PR for replacing the mapping tables in the AAMs (core-aam#180)
… prettier experiment w3c/graphics-aria#10
… quo vadis contributors.md
… organizing ARIA 1.4 prioritization
… daniel
… item 1, spec markup

jamesn: have started on it.
… skeptical on how useful it will be.
… not enough AT requirements to make it useful
… if we markup author and UA, it will be too much
… why one but not the others? Can't we just search for them?
… maybe instead, just pick a searchable string to find them?

spectranaut: I like that idea.

pkra: +1

jamesn: we can put that at the start of each paragraph where we want it.

spectranaut: sentences can be nested.
… what if more than one?

jamesn: have both.
… do it as a class and spec generation could add it afterwards.
… consistency will be key

spectranaut: sounds like script should be you, then adding the class can be done by others

jamesn: either use a class or data attribute and then generate a string. could be something else later, e.g., image.
… you could still search the source

pkra: +1 data attributes but whatever works

item 2, Val's PR

spectranaut: feel like scotto and pkra approved it.
… haven't finished it yet though.

<spectranaut_> https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/core-aam/pull/180.html

<spectranaut_> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/core-aam/remove-tables/index.html#mapping_role

jamesn: looks ok. if implementors are happy, let's do it.

spectranaut: last point was table caption.
… repeats what's in the heading but with links to aria

jamesn: could help AT users to have option to navigate by headings or tables

pkra: alternatively, we discussed putting a line in tables with links to aria concepts.

jamesn: or put links in the headings?
… maybe respec doesn't like that.

spectranaut: maybe I'll ping Jamie Teh.

jamesn: great idea.

item 3, prettier experiment

jamesn: why long lines?

pkra: because you asked for it? ;-)
… to avoid weird prettier formatting around tags

jamesn: and still people can edit the doc any way they want and CI will reformat?

pkra: yes.

spectranaut: will there be conflicts for PRs?

pkra: yes.

jamesn: there will never be a good time.
… we should do it before 1.3 FPWD
… will take a look

pkra: item 4, contributors.md

<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/aria/graphs/contributors

pkra: Daniel is out this week but promised to take a look

jamesn: we should compare what it generates, then decide.
… for example, compared to git contributor graph

pkra: item 5, 1.4 prioritization

<spectranaut_> w3c/aria#1884

pkra: had triggered me in terms of the state of our projects
… wasn't sure if projects works for us.

spectranaut: long time ago I made a board with all issues.

pkra: https://github.com/w3c/aria/projects?type=classic

<jamesn> fyi this is the list of contributors

<jamesn> Aaron Leventhal

<jamesn> Adam Page

<jamesn> Alexander Surkov

<jamesn> Amelia Bellamy-Royds

<jamesn> Andrea N. Cardona

<jamesn> Anne van Kesteren

<jamesn> Anne-Gaelle Colom

<jamesn> Ariella Gilmore

<jamesn> Boaz

<jamesn> Bogdan Brinza

<jamesn> bpmcneilly

<jamesn> Brennan Young

<jamesn> Carolyn MacLeod

<jamesn> Craig Morten

<jamesn> Cynthia Shelly

<jamesn> D.A. Kahn

<jamesn> Dan Bjorge

<jamesn> Domenic Denicola

<jamesn> Epigenetic

<jamesn> Estelle Weyl

<jamesn> Games for Girls

<jamesn> Harris Schneiderman

<jamesn> Innovimax

<jamesn> Isaac Durazo

<jamesn> Ivan Herman

<jamesn> JaEun Jemma Ku

<jamesn> James Craig

<jamesn> Jason Kiss

<jamesn> JAWS-test

<jamesn> JAWS-test2

<jamesn> joanmarie

<jamesn> Jon Gunderson

<jamesn> Jory Cunningham

<jamesn> Joseph Scheuhammer

<jamesn> Josh Salazar

<jamesn> Kagami Sascha Rosylight

<jamesn> Manuel Rego Casasnovas

<jamesn> Marcos Cáceres

<jamesn> Marek Lewandowski

<jamesn> Matt Garrish

<jamesn> Matt King

<jamesn> Melanie Richards

<jamesn> Melanie Sumner

<jamesn> Nick Schonning

<jamesn> Nicolás Alvarez

<jamesn> Philippe Le Hegaret

<jamesn> Prayag Verma

<jamesn> Richard Schwerdtfeger

<jamesn> Rick Brown

<jamesn> Sarah Higley

<jamesn> Sayan Sivakumaran

<jamesn> Scott O'Hara

<jamesn> Sebastian Silbermann

<jamesn> Shane McCarron

<jamesn> Shota FUJI

<jamesn> Simon Pieters

<jamesn> Stephane Deschamps

<jamesn> Steve Faulkner

<jamesn> Thibaud Colas

<jamesn> Tyler Wilcock

<jamesn> Tzviya

<jamesn> Valerie Young

<jamesn> Vyacheslav Aristov

<jamesn> Wilco Fiers

<jamesn> WilliamTennisNFCU

<jamesn> based on respec

pkra: e.g., https://github.com/w3c/aria/projects/18

jamesn: sorry for the buffer dump. this is what respec gives me from git.

jamesn: we could have this one as contributors and then also members at time of publication

spectranaut: +1

pkra: jamesn are you volunteering?

jamesn: yes.

pkra: back to 1.4 prio?

spectranaut: project 18 was trying to help people prioritze.
… should we move them to 1.4? Will create big bucket.

pkra: doesn't seem to help people?

spectranaut: maybe we should push more.

jamesn: I'd say step 1: punt features to 1.4
… clarification can be revisited when 1.3 in FWPD
… maybe agenda item for this week

pkra: I went through non-milestoned issues and PRs a while back and assigned them so sorting by milestone should help.
… so what about 1.4?

jamesn: talk about it at TPAC