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Accessibility Conformance Testing Teleconference

13 Jul 2023

Attendees

Present
ToddL, kathy, Wilco, thbrunet
Regrets
Chair
wilco
Scribe
kathy

Contents


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ACT Standup

wilco: finished AG responses, renamed one rule, and sent. briefed AG chairs yesterday

<Wilco> https://master--wai-evaluation-tools-list.netlify.app/tools-list/evaluation/

wilco: working on mailing potential implementers. Evaluation tools list update is close to getting published, which includes an entry of ACT rules
... will work on templates for rule pages next week

tom: issue related to role presentation. There's already a PR open.
... by the aria group
... will open aria group issue

todd: will get to reviews in github

Secondary requirements merged in ACT Rules Format Editor's Draft

<Wilco> scribe+

https://w3c.github.io/wcag-act/act-rules-format.html

<Wilco> Kathy: Daniel e-mailed Wilco, me and Trevor about this item.

<Wilco> ... The editors draft includes the PR of secondary requirements. This has been done. Further reviews are pending, and this is the latest draft of version 1.1

ICT Testing Symposium

<Wilco> https://www.ictaccessibilitytesting.org/

wilco: ICT Testing Symposium call for papers
... anyone going and thoughts on proposals. particularly on implementations?

kathy: yes I usually go

wilco: probably not going

todd: probably not

Check-in on annual reviews

wilco: most reviewers missing today

<ToddL> I have to step away for a minute

wilco: several rules ready to publish as is and don't need discussion
... marking those 5 rules as "reviewed" in spreadsheet
... Image has non-empty acc name review comments
... Q4 implementation comment issue 2062

tom: will be resolved by a PR
... img with role=none or presentation does not need alt

kathy: good with PR to address issue

wilco: rule marked "reviewed"
... Link has non-empty acc name review comments
... kathy comment SC 1.1.1 should be a secondary req

<Wilco> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/1875

kathy: will do

wilco: catherine listed issue #2049
... browser inconsistency

(discussion of whether alt is same as alt="")

tom: in DOM, alt translates to alt=""
... but still takes title for accname

wilco: firefox doesn't care about empty attributes

tom: maybe flag empty alt with non-empty title as a separate rule

<ToddL> +1 w/Tom

tom: don't think it's a discrepancy of acc name, more a discrepancy of attributes

wilco: agrees
... want to avoid rules with browser inconsistencies

<ToddL> Is this the bug? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1700174

wilco: adding conclusion to #2049 to cover in a separate rule
... mark rule as reviewed
... next rule review HTML xml
... modern chrome doesn't care about xml; doesn't process HTML4 anymore
... rule should be deprecated per #1921
... rule marked "reviewed"

todd: added link to a bug above
... will post in issue #2049

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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