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Accessibility Conformance Testing Teleconference

18 May 2023

Attendees

Present
thbrunet, Helen, kathy, catherine, trevor, Wilco, Suji, ChrisLoiselle, sbassett, Daniel
Regrets
Chair
Wilco
Scribe
Catherine_

Contents


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ACT Standup

wilco: templates for ACT rules

Chris: re-evaluating ACT for oracle and evaluation current rules

daniel: cleanup on WCAG on publishing editors drafts

Kathy: github guidance cleanup

<kathy> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VF5LB09CDwtJ9iRFGJuYL4i8atqvBpA8JnYuGMWfcqo/edit#

<kathy> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/1458

Kathy: act cg discussing accessible name/label. issue that summarizes groups' discussion. second item in url provided by kathy

Helen: at accessU

Tom: starting to look at ARIA rules. reviewing iframes

Catherine: evaluation current rules

Suji: reviewing current rules

Trevor: subjective applicability

<Wilco> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pull/2034

Wilco: need reviews on 2 pull requests. Kathy and Helen will help

<Wilco> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pull/2041

Wilco: Tom can help, too. Daniel, too. req 2041

ACT template updates

<Wilco> https://deploy-preview-215--wai-wcag-act-rules.netlify.app/standards-guidelines/act/rules/2eb176/proposed/

<Wilco> https://deploy-preview-215--wai-wcag-act-rules.netlify.app/standards-guidelines/act/rules/1a02b0/proposed/

Wilco - Add composed rules to mapping of atomic rules. added "Its outcome is used in the following composite rule". all in agreement and Wilco will get implemented.

<Wilco> https://deploy-preview-200--wai-wcag-act-rules.netlify.app/standards-guidelines/act/rules/bisz58/proposed/#accessibility-requirements-mapping

<Wilco> Because this rule allows no exceptions, it is stricter than this success criterion. Failing this rule often results in this success criterion being not satisfied.

<Wilco> Because this success criterion has a higher minimum contrast, it is stricter than the rule. This is also why some passed examples do not satisfy this success criterion.

Wilco: secondary requirements - more clear distinction. added a section.

group agrees

<Wilco> https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act-rules/pull/205

Wilco - common assets used in test cases into a rule.

<Wilco> https://deploy-preview-205--wai-wcag-act-rules.netlify.app/standards-guidelines/act/rules/047fe0/proposed/#test-cases

<Wilco> https://deploy-preview-205--wai-wcag-act-rules.netlify.app/standards-guidelines/act/rules/ffbc54/proposed/#test-cases

Trevor - not sure he wants double nesting. can get lengthy. other than that, it's nice to have.

kathy - looks good

wilco - open with + button

chris - downloadable link or open in new tab?? might make for easier formatting

wilco - will ask for link to open in new page and expand button to be formatted

zakin, take up next

Subjective exceptions in the applicability

<trevor> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/discussions/2061

Trevor - subjective applicability discussion opened up on github

what we get and what we done with subjective applicability.

what we lose - doesn't give testers solid direction

rules can be too broad

<trevor> https://act-rules.github.io/rules/36b590

any questions on "some rules use a hack to get around the objective applicability"

chris - the fact that "or" is a trigger between objective and subjective

chris - second example is tighter and probably more understandable.

Steven B - link to glossary definition

Steven B - link to glossary definition

Suji - likes second option better

trevor - exception example - "each test target must be a descendant of the semantic role of 'heading'"

at time. need to wrap

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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