Meeting minutes
Review Agenda and Next Meeting Date
<Matt_King> View agenda at https://
<Matt_King> Next meeting: April 25
Matt_King: May 2nd will be a travel day for many folks involved with ARIA because it precedes a face-to-face meeting
Matt_King: We'll probably cancel the meeting for May 2.
Matt_King: But that's two weeks from today, so we'll confirm during next week's meeting
Status of Site Updates
Matt_King: We had an amazing cross-team effort involving a lot of people to release support tables--five of them on four different pages on APG!
Matt_King: And a blog post titled "ANSWERING 'WHAT ARIA CAN I USE?'" available here: https://
Matt_King: This is a really big milestone in my mind. The post explains why
jongund: It looks like the "skip to" content is being rendered twice on the new page
Matt_King: I noticed that, too. I wasn't sure if it was just me
jongund: I'll try to look into it further
Pull request reviews
PR 2643 - Datepicker Modal Dialog: Updated code and fixed next/prev month bug by jongund
github: w3c/
Matt_King: I think this is really close
Matt_King: The only thing we're waiting on is a review of the regression tests by Alex_Flenniken
jugglinmike: That will probably not happen this week due to Bocoup's week-long "all-hands" meeting taking place now
PR 2622 - Listbox Examples: Update scrolling of listbox item with focus into view when page is magnified by jongund
github: w3c/
jongund: I fixed the issue where when you were using keyboard commands, it wasn't following focus
Matt_King: Just if you're pressing the shortcut keys, or also when focus is on the "up" and "down" buttons
jongund: Just the shortcut keys. The expected behavior when focus is on the "up" and "down" buttons needs more discussion
Matt_King: Okay, I think we have a separate issue for that
Matt_King: We're also waiting on Alex_Flenniken here
Matt_King: I have a little to do as well
PR 2670: Add landmark pattern page by mcking65
github: w3c/
Matt_King: arigilmore has reviewed
Matt_King: We don't have a preview, though. arigilmore were you looking at the code diff?
Matt_King: Alex_Flenniken told us it failed to build
<arigilmore> w3c/
Matt_King: There are other people listed for review, but since we don't have a preview, let's mark the pull request as a draft
Matt_King: Hopefully we'll be able to get that into a ready-to-review state, but we'll have to talk with Alex_Flenniken
New Issue Action Planning
Matt_King: I'm going to take some steps to make gh-2675 more actionable, so we'll skip that one for now
Select-Only Combobox Closes When Clicking on its Scrollbar
github: w3c/
<jongund> need to leave a little early today
jugglinmike: I can replicate this using Firefox and Ubuntu
Matt_King: Does this occur in other examples?
jugglinmike: it works as expected in "Editable Combobox With Both List and Inline Autocomplete Example"
Andrea: I can take a look
Matt_King: Thanks, I have assigned you
Switch Pattern: probably not exactly "interchangable" with checkboxes
github: w3c/
Matt_King: I don't want to muddy the waters in the first paragraph which describes how to choose a role. But maybe we could address this difference in how they may be conventionally applied in the second paragraph
jamesn: It seems like you should use switch only if activating it takes effect immediately
jugglinmike: So does that mean switches shouldn't be used in forms which aren't powered with JavaScript?
jamesn: I don't think they should be used in that case
Matt_King: We might have some other places where we use accessibility to say, "change your visual design because it doesn't reflect the accessibility semantics", but we've worked pretty hard to avoid doing that. I might be forgetting something, but it somehow feels like crossing a line.
Matt_King: I guess there are some places were we say, "for accessibility reasons, don't create massive radio button groups--use something like a typeahead, instead"
MarkMcCarthy: It only says "they are often functionally interchangeable". It doesn't say "always", but maybe we could say "sometimes"
MarkMcCarthy: I think this is a non-issue, though. I can see that they aren't exactly interchangeable, but APG isn't saying that they're exactly interchangeable.