Meeting minutes
Agenda
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RRSAgent: who is here?
Zakim: who is here?
Matt_King: Three topic areas today, any others?
Matt_King: Hearing nothing.
(introductions)
Status of Site Updates
Review updates to first AT support table - pull request #2569
<Github> w3c/
github: w3c/
AlexFlenniken: the last thing I changed was about a week ago--changing the default height
Matt_King: I shared some feedback--was that addressed?
AlexFlenniken: Yes, I've addressed that
Matt_King: Then this is ready for everybody to look at
Matt_King: It looks like Howard_Edwards (not present) and myself are assigned as reviewers. I would like to have some other members of the task force looking at this
jongund: I can take a look at it
MarkMcCarthy: You can add me, too
Matt_King: The long-term plan is that there will only be one example per page. We have a backlog item to address the patterns which have more than one example per page (e.g. button)
jongund: Do you want me to work on separating the button examples into separate pages?
Matt_King: Thank you, but not right now. I think that at the current time, doing so would create too much churn
Pull Requests
Listbox Examples: Update scrolling of listbox item with focus into view when page is magnified
github: w3c/
Matt_King: A question came up on this one this week
Matt_King: It was from Aleena
jongund: I didn't understand it, though
arigilmore: I also didn't understand it
Matt_King: It sounds as though it may be beyond the scope of this pull request
Matt_King: arigilmore's feedback may be in-scope. We have to determine if VoiceOver's behavior is incorrect. In that case, the example code is fine, and the unexpected behavior is exactly the kind of thing we're trying to find
Matt_King: We don't typically test VoiceOver with Firefox
arigilmore: It was listed in the wiki, though I was surprised to find it there
MarkMcCarthy: I think there was a reason for this; I can check with Jemma
arigilmore: Narrator - Firefox -> unable to select items from all list example pages
Matt_King: So this is when "scan mode" is off and you arrow in the list?
arigilmore: Yeah, it tells me something like "no items found." I forget the exact terminology it uses
Matt_King: That almost sounds like a Narrator bug
MarkMcCarthy: It sounds that way to me, too.
arigilmore: VO - safari/chrome iPhone -> can’t select items in example 1 in unimportant features and in example 2 can only select first item in upgrades you have chosen
arigilmore: In the first one, I could only navigate to the first item in the second column
arigilmore: With VoiceOver, I could only select the first "unimportant" feature, but I couldn't select the one below it
Matt_King: So if you had three in that list, you wouldn't be able to move the second one from "unimportant" to "important"?
arigilmore: Right
Matt_King: But you can do it if VoiceOver is not running?
arigilmore: That's right
Matt_King: So if it can be done when VoiceOver is not running, then it's obviously not a compatibility with mobile. I don't understand what that would be. I guess it's related to aria-activedescendents, somehow
arigilmore: VO/Talkback - safari/chrome iPhone, android -> not announced that you are in a group “water”:
Matt_King: That's clearly a screen reader bug
Matt_King: So I think we're "safe" with all of these, arigilmore
Matt_King: I'm the only reviewer left on this one
Combobox Date Picker Example: Change previous and next month and year behavior for dates near end of month
github: w3c/
Matt_King: AlexFlenniken left some review comments
Matt_King: Did you address those, jongund?
jongund: Yup. I adjusted the stylesheet to override the default styles
Matt_King: I'm re-requesting review from you, AlexFlenniken
Matt_King: It's also awaiting review from Siri and me
Matt_King: We should probably ping Siri
About Page: Convert to an About section overview that links to several new pages within the about APG section
github: w3c/
Matt_King: AlexFlenniken, you had feedback for me, and I addressed that just today
AlexFlenniken: the current status is that Aleena is trying to determine whether changes to the WAI template are necessary
AlexFlenniken: Apologies, I'm thinking about a different pull request. You can forget my prior comment.
AlexFlenniken: Here is a supporting pull request in wai-aria-practices w3c/
Matt_King: Can you edit the top comment in 2558 to add that link?
AlexFlenniken: Definitely
Matt_King: After we get that preview, I'm going to change this pull request to not be a draft and then ask people to review it
Matt_King: There's a fair amount of new content in this. We took a look at the introduction the week before last.
Matt_King: Most of the content is just an exact copy of what's currently on the "About" page. The two parts that are new are the introduction and the section titled "ARIA Basics"
Matt_King: It's waiting for review from Jemma and jongund
Matt_King: Anybody else want to be assigned?
Andrea_: I can review
MarkMcCarthy: Michael Cooper will have to grant you permissions to act as a reviewer
Matt_King: You have to be in the "ARIA contributors" team in the W3C
Zakim: end the meeting