Meeting minutes
semantic-labels#1 feedback on semantic label repo (cabanier)
https://
rik: Add support for semantic labels for hit testing and others.
… Did not want to add the specific labels to the spec -- too many updates
… Set up simple Repo (https://
… Also provides horizontal or vertical
Leonard: Who is going to keep order
Rik: No one - general updates
Piotr: Only for labels or is supporting other concepts?
Rik: Just semantic labels
Piotr: No separate feature descriptor.
… #2: Array of semantic lables on a hit test. Will there also be categories such as furnature --> sofa (taxonomy)
Rik: No structure, no taxonomy
Piotr: Perhaps more general labels need to be returned with detailed lables
Ada: Is there an expectation that platforms support at least a major-category subset?
Rik: No requirements - completely optional.
Ada: Android allows hit test on any surface. How do things categorize stuff?
Rik: No restrictions, though best to keep 'floor' for things that are really floors.
Charles: Anticipate use in assisted technologies? I18n? W3C registry?
Rik: Could be used for assisted technologies.
… I18n: these are generic terms. Applications need to handle any translations (similar to ENUMS)
… W3C registry: doesn't know what that is. Suggest filing an issue on registry.
Piotr: Is there any anticipation of guessing labels? Do these confidence value?
Rik: Does not anticipate "guessing".
Piotr: Will file issue
<Zakim> cwilso, you wanted to comment on registry
<cwilso> https://
ChrisW: See above link for W3C registry info.
Leonard: How do you anticipate this being used?
Rik: Manual step to populate & label the environment
Nick: Relates the capabilities of their current product. Establishes a collection of semantic layers.
… System allows fractional assignments. Allows objects to "fade" into background
Rik: HitTest API not required. Also possible to use PlaneTest API.
layers#298 Add option to skip the clearing of textures requested (cabanier)
https://
Rik: Skip clearing of texturtes. Revisiting from a few weeks ago
<bajones_> I have loosened my opinions on this, FWIW
Rik: Request was made to make default value == FALSE. Lots of examples where default == TRUE.
<bajones_> In other words, no objection from me on keeping the value as-is
Rik: ... new attribute does not require textures to be automatically cleared.
Brandon: No voice -- see above comments.
Rik: Will make sure everything is cleaned uo
layers#302 Add support for higher quality filtering requested (cabanier)
https://
Rik: Different quality for layers. Allows clearer text, etc.
… Ada had suggested other lables, but Brandon does not necessarily agree
Ada: "Power balance"?
Rik: Would prefer "default" should be do nothing special
Rik&Ada: <discussion on various alternatives>
Ada: suggesting that the labels should be more descriptive.
Brandon: Tends to agree w/Rik on 'default'
… Doesn't want to see anything labeled
… *performant* be slower than 'default'
… May want a layer to be fast over everything else.
Ada: Convinced
Leonard: Might use 'inherit' instead of 'default' to inherit system settings
Charles: Disability user may not care about visual (for example) quality
Rik: Might be a need to increase contrast (user dependent)
Ada: Hint?
Rik: It is a hint
Brandon: Many accessibility cases are better handled by UA rather than this hint
No other discussion, no other topics
Brandel: Place for feedback for how hint is interperted?
Rik: Spec already addresses text clarity and other features
Brandel: More about how this interacts with the user at run-time.
Brandon: Not part of current proposal. Wants to know more about the use case and how developers interact with various responses
Ada: Concern about exposes accessibility info to websites. Info should remain with the UA.
General discussion: About issues and potential solutions. Nothing decided or agreed to
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<ada> Thank you so much Leonard!!