<scribe> scribe: Rain
Analysis: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bMtsy6ueSpPHlInNWTyTEM7eH1s9ssqXipTkr05ddRU/edit
Rain: question to group is
whether or not we should narrow down to these four categories,
and if so, are we happy with these
... and can we decide where these others go?
Lisa: could also be that we need
to reword the patterns to make them more clear
... and categories that we made are an initial pass
... example "provide helpful technology and
personalization"
... or other ways to make them more simple
... such as "use a clear and findable design"
... to help make things that aren't so obvious
Link to the analysis itself: https://app.optimalworkshop.com/optimalsort/s6hinqgg/0dho60a6/shared-results#/t/results/analysisTools/standardisationGrid
password: COGA
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<julierawe> +1
Taking a look at the categories to see how we can refine them: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bMtsy6ueSpPHlInNWTyTEM7eH1s9ssqXipTkr05ddRU/edit#heading=h.ba28cs63kb7s
Lisa: would prefer to have
personalization with helpful technology because personalization
is technology, and support may not be
... support has a lot of crossover
... would like minimize distractions under clear design
Rain: feel that "support" and "cognitive load" are outcomes of all of them and don't belong in any one
Shawn: would like to make sure memory is included and is very important
Lisa and Shawn are discussing memory, wondering if we should map to functional needs instead?
<Zakim> ShawnT, you wanted to speak on functional needs
Rain wondering if we need to stop trying to categorize the patterns cleanly to one objective and instead look at tagging based on relevant functional needs
ShawnT: Rain's point related ... different functional needs intersect with each other. May be better to have the categories as tags and allow patterns to map to multiple
lisa: what trying to do with
objectives is give people a starting point
... a simplified overview if you don't need all the
patterns
... the getting started principles
... also in content usable have the user stories, and under
each objective have user stories
... then have an appendix where mapping the story level to
multiple patterns
... kind of when the direction with mapping already, so maybe
could go in the functional needs user story direction
... did put it first before the design guide and did map to
them
... and maybe functional needs is a different view of the
document
... have done this with more outcomes and stories
... what is most helpful way to do this for our audience?
<ShawnT> can we give people multiple paths?
Rain: thinking that maybe we do both, keep the high level objectives for the top level summary, and then provide a different view into the design patterns that enable people to see the cross intersections
<kirkwood> sorry came in a little late, pls share w/ me too
Rain: to start a document to sort
through what this means and share it with everyone for the Feb.
27th meeting for
... (in advance of that meeting)
<julierawe_> I won't be at this Monday's COGA meeting
Shawn volunteered to help mock up an html prototype for the new structure
Will do it on Github
<ShawnT> yes please
<kirkwood> yes
Rain confirming that everyone on this call would like to be participants in the document to asych try out this new structure
Lisa agreed verbally
Eric agreed verbally, too
And Julie
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