Kevin: Main things from this one.
Kevin: Whether or not to stop
audio
... Transitions
... And fade outs
... if people can have a look at these and share their
thoughts
... First the music is silenced for the transition. Then the
panel that appears after the transition is slightly larger, as
well as the font. And then the fade out transition fades the
non-white over montage at the end of the video to the over faded
white montage at the start of the next video
Laura: Seems OK to me
Jade: Is the time the same?
Kevin: No, there are still some
consistency issues, I have flagged those to them
... There are other differences in transitions as well that I
have flagged to them
Jade: I think it looks pretty
good, it is just the timing
... The first one seems a bit quick
Brent: When it goes silent, the
first one is in the middle of when the narrator says "About
people". The second one has the silent before the sentence. I
wonder if the music should go through to where she says "About
people"
... I think the music should cut right where she says "About
people"
Kevin: That's fine
Brent: Jade, where you saying that the general transition should be a bit longer?
Jade: Yes, it feels a bit quick
Kevin: For me it was too quick in
one, two slow in another, it is inconsistent
... Not hearing any other concerns, will work on what has been
raised up to now
... Two more things I think we need input on
... For the "people" videos there was an over representation of
a couple of actors
... One who is signing and Addie
... It could create problems in the compilation videos
... This happens because each of the actors are the last person
to be shown in each video
... One idea is to decouple the last scene
Jade: You would still need to choose people from the videos
Kevin: Yes, I would always select an actor from each of the video, won't be a random thing
Jade: Sounds like a good compromise
Kevin: I can go back to them with that
<Brent> +1
<slewth> +1
Kevin: The other one is prop for
autogenerated captions
... They have taken a single frame from the video I created
and used that as a digital prop
Kevin: I just want to check
whether it works or we need to try something else
... It's at 1:44
Brent: Why isn't the captions changing moving? But then because it wasn't moving I could listen to the narrator. I had the time to process what was said and still read at the captions. But I knew what was coming in that part of the video, not sure what would happen if someone wouldn't know
Laura: I think it is OK
Jade: The biggest problem is that the actor is responding in real time and the subtitles are not there
Michele: Is it possible to start with picture-in-picture and then move to full screen?
Kevin: It may result on a similar
problem
... I think there is enough focus maybe. The question is if
this is enough in terms of compromise to represent the
challenge
Jade: Has anyone seen this that hadn't seen this before?
Kevin: One. I could find a couple of more people
Jade: It would be good to see how they react to that, we all know our opinions already
Kevin: The one with dyscalculia is particularly difficult. We can't have them showing one condition and then showing a different type of condition
Shadi: It is not ideal but I
believe dyscalculia and dyslexia are too far away from each
other in this context
... This is something that could be resolved in the page,
depending on how you describe the protagonist
... You could make it more clear that Stefan has dyscalculia
and dyslexia
Kevin: Yes. Ideally we could fix
it, though.
... in the same video at 2:12 the actor is Sophie who has Down
Syndrome and again the narrator talks about different
conditions
Michele: One thing in the compilation. There is not consistency on the way they are captioning "Accessibility is about people". It would be nice to have consistency in the captions.
Kevin: All the captions are
embedded now, we are going to get separate SRT files later
... With these files we get more editorial control. We can take
further passes in the future
Brent: Sometimes there was one
line, others there were double lines
... In the perception video there is a point where the volume
of the screen reader is louder than the volume of the regular
narration
... Just to see if they could turn down the volume of the
screen reader
KEvin: Should be doable
Brent: In the physical video,
00:34, the narration is talking about small targets but there
is nothing related in the scene. However, Elias is talking also
about small targets and there the prop follows the
narration
... I wonder if Elias prop could be reused in the other
video
Kevin: There is a prop for that that starts about 00:30 which largely illustrate clickable areas. I might be worth to see if we can introduce that, I don't see that as big issue
Brent: That was the piece I was
thinking about
... Between 00:30 and 00:38
... Kevin, is there anything else you need from the group at
the moment?
Kevin: Let's use the weekend for
feedback, if there is anything that comes up it would be useful
to know
... We are limited in editorial time, please just raise high
issues. This is the last editorial pass
Brent: Should the sub group meet on Tuesday?
Kevin: It will depend on the feedback. At the moment the issues I discussed today are the ones where I needed additional input, if there is anything else that pops up and is unclear we could meet
Brent: Then let's just make the call that we are not meeting on Tuesday, if we hear back from Kevin, I'll through out a meeting call for Tuesday 7 AM Central
Brent: That has been updated this
week. Minor changes for Easy Checks
... Please fill in the survey on availability for F2F
... Anything else before we wrap up?
... Thank you Kevin for your fantastic job on these videos,
these are much better now
KEvin: Thanks to the group for their invaluable help
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