W3C

– DRAFT –
PEWG

21 December 2022

Attendees

Present
Patrick_H_Lauke, smaug
Regrets
-
Chair
Patrick H. Lauke
Scribe
Patrick H. Lauke, Patrick_H_Lauke

Meeting minutes

Olli: I think Mustaq has done a lot of triaging for us

Patrick: Yes, I've seen a flurry of activity on https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/

Patrick: as an aside, smaug, here's the bookmarks I always have to reopen and refer to for this meeting to remember how to use W3C tools https://www.w3.org/2002/03/RRSAgent and https://www.w3.org/2008/04/scribe.html

Meta-issue: update WPT to cover Pointer Events Level 3 https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues/445

https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues?page=1&q=is%3Aclosed+label%3Awpt

Patrick: Mustaq has done a lot of commenting on these

Patrick: correct link https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/labels/wpt

Olli: the last one here https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues/457 is a chrome bug, so hoping that Chrome folks will do a test. let me change it to needs-wpt

Patrick: so all the PRs (which are closed, as they were done) that need WPTs are here https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues?q=label%3Aneeds-wpt+

Olli: the most worrying one is https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/pull/318 - this has been in spec for 2 years, and nobody has implemented it afaik

Olli: need to see if there's a reason for this ... is it because it can't be implemented? not needed anymore?

Olli: perhaps we need some telemetry data to see how often they're used in non-secure contexts, because if the usage is high, that will be tricky

ACTION: discuss https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/pull/318 in the new year and see what the situation is/why it's not been implemented

Heartbeat: Clarify what the target of the click event should be after capturing pointer events https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues/356

Patrick: don't think there's been any activity. We probably should also discuss this in the new year, because this is the last hanging item

Olli: it would be good to get Apple people's take on this

Patrick: maybe we can prod them in the new year. but otherwise we need to make a decision here on how to proceed either way

Patrick: perhaps see if we can reach out to Jen Simmons who is pushing the public face of Apple's web standards developer outreach, or perhaps Antoine Quint https://github.com/graouts

ACTION: reach out to Apple in new year to get feedback on #356

<Github> https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues/356 : Clarify what the target of the click event should be after capturing pointer events

[some more general discussion about the state we're in with other issues marked for future, and how they'll be quite valuable to look at once PE3 is out - either for a PE4, or a PE living standard]

Patrick: if there's nothing else, I'd say have a relaxing break, and we'll reconvene in the new year for the next meeting

Summary of action items

  1. discuss https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/pull/318 in the new year and see what the situation is/why it's not been implemented
  2. reach out to Apple in new year to get feedback on #356
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 197 (Tue Nov 8 15:42:48 2022 UTC).

Diagnostics

Maybe present: Olli, Patrick

All speakers: Olli, Patrick

Active on IRC: Github, Patrick_H_Lauke