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– DRAFT –
ARIA and Assistive Technologies Community Group

08 December 2022

Attendees

Present
Alysa, Isabel, James, JoeHumbert, Matt_King
Regrets
-
Chair
Matt King
Scribe
s3ththompson

Meeting minutes

Meeting schedule for Dec and Jan

<Matt_King> No meetings dec 22, dec 29, nor Jan 5

<Matt_King> Will meet Dec 15

Update on JAWS bug fixes

<Matt_King> James: met w/Vispero this morning about upcoming jaws 2023 update

<Matt_King> Expecting release mid to end of next week.

<Matt_King> Fixed majority of issues within the 8 test plans.

<Matt_King> Discussed which plans would be priority to retest.

<Matt_King> so we can publish them in APG before end of year

<Matt_King> Retest would be alert, toggle, and radio group.

<Matt_King> command button and link, although these two already have 100%

<Matt_King> Matt: No feedback yet on new candidate test experience

<Matt_King> Asked braille testing

<Matt_King> Vispero is interested in braille support testing.

<Matt_King> We don't know when it will be on our roadmap yet; is definitely in future scope.

<Matt_King> Seth: May require revisiting some design decisions.

Planning retesting

<Matt_King> Matt: Ideally, jaws 2023 update is shipped wednesday.

<Matt_King> Focus of testing for December is retesting to support publishing AT support tables for as many of the 8 test plans in candidate phase as possible

Matt_King: test plans include: alert, command button, toggle button, link

Matt_King: what we need for retesting with JAWS are alert and toggle button... those are the ones where JAWS has bugfixes

Matt_King: let's say we get alert out there... we would need it to be retested by 2 ppl with JAWS 2023 and they have to get the same results

Matt_King: for toggle button, the failing test is that when you read the current line, the role is not included.

Matt_King: test plans include: alert (updated test version), command button, toggle button, link

s3ththompson: i suggest we add the December 9 version (whenever PR is merged) for all 5 test plans to the test queue. this will mean that the retesting is not affecting the data currently in candidate review

Matt_King: by dec 19, there will be at least 2 if not 3 test plans retested with JAWS 2023... do we know what will happen then to make sure that data is reflected on the reports page?

James Scholes: to restart we'll update alert & radio group. then we add all 5 test plans to the test queue with the latest version and latest commit

James Scholes: then we need to assign people to retest those 5 as they're able

Matt_King: right, and we probably need to do it all in the same order

James Scholes: alert, command button, link, toggle button, radio group would be complexity order

Assignments are as follows; for latest NVDA (2022.4?) PAC will test all 5 and Alyssa will test alert, command button, and link and Louis the other 2; for JAWS 2023, someone at PAC and Louis will test all 5 plans, with Matt as backup; for VoiceOver, someone from PAC and Louis will test all 5 plans

Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 196 (Thu Oct 27 17:06:44 2022 UTC).

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