W3C

Accessibility Conformance Testing Teleconference

27 Oct 2022

Attendees

Present
Trevor, Wilco, Chris, KAthy, Helen, thbrunet
Regrets
Chair
Wilco
Scribe
kathy

Contents


<scribe> scribe: kathy

CFC: Migrate ACT Implementation Report pages to WAI website

wilco: new content for W3C website. CRC 1.5 weeks ago. Need TF approval to publish content

<Wilco_> https://wai-wcag-act-rules.netlify.app/standards-guidelines/act/implementations/#see-also

wilco: 4 pages copied from CG site for easier reference so CG site can be taken down
... 1 response but no +1s
... CFC sent Oct 18
... will send reminder. please respond

CfC: HTML page title is descriptive, ready for AG

<Wilco_> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pull/1964

wilco: got all +1s but also created a PR to add an example
... to address a comment
... let's accept for AG and PR will go to call for review

RESOLUTION: Accept title descriptive rule, pending PR #1964

ACT rules sheet

helen: iframes ready for AG

kathy: call for review, then merge scrollable elements

will: image descriptive is good

trevor: text content 2 PRs. 1916 needs 1 more review. 1959 is changing applicability so working on it more

tom: contrast needs another review

chris: orientation comments from jean yves
... email to kathy about a survey comment, addressed other comments

will: can't find PR for menuitem

Open ACT pull requests

wilco: 1964 reviewers assigned

daniel: will look at it

wilco: 1962 approved for Chris, will merge
... CSS orientation status changed to waiting
... 1955 image accessible name ready.

will: I will send call for review

wilco: 1950 aria 1.2 in call for review
... 1945 accessibility support needs reviews
... 1925 approved
... 1917 will go to call for review
... 1855 iframe went to call for review

Priority issues

wilco: 1958 meta refresh needs reviews

ACT Standup

wilco: our regular updates takes a long time, suggest a small standup at start of meetings, everyone says what they're doing/will be doing next week
... on facilitator calls discuss open issues

trevor: sounds good

wilco: before the meetings, plan what you want to discuss and ask for help on
... we'll start this next week

Better define how rules related to page states

trevor: how to include state in applicability and expectation
... wilco mentioned bringing into input aspects
... expand states and transitions as a subsection
... may need a glossary entry with examples
... modification will be to update input aspects for atomic rules

<trevor> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/1953

wilco: i think focus on focus can be defined so it can be in applicability

trevor: a rule looking at something that went from collapsed to expanded, transition is left to implementor to define
... hard for us to cover every case and be objective
... failed ones won't have false to true so hard to test if transition is defined in rule

wilco: most difficult is transition like animated in, scrolled in

trevor: and also error state to non-error state in a form

wilco: transition can be input aspect. Ex: contrast rule exclude text notes in transition
... or scrolling text that fades in as it scrolls

trevor: this input aspect would be scroll-based rendering?

wilco: not sure how to define that objectively

trevor: list known examples under input aspects but there are more than what's listed
... rules are getting too technical and trying to add state get very technical

wilco: what about input aspect includes human language

trevor: sibling input aspect more roughly defined that requires human interpretation?

wilco: with essential, definition has a list of known things that are essential

trevor: disabled can be in applicability. might be a transition from disabled to enabled

chris: transition could be entered data enables a button that was disabled

trevor: don't think there's a requirement to make it known button is enabled

wilco: next step identify use cases we want addressed in 1.1?

tom: definition of input aspect is non-user interaction, but we're talking about user driven

trevor: will try more work on input aspect

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

  1. Accept title descriptive rule, pending PR #1964
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