Meeting minutes
Profile discussion - continued from the Profile call
Lagally: (explains the slides on the high-level structure of the WoT Profile spec)
… [HTTP Baseline + Common Constraints]
… [Webhook +SSE Events]
… [Alternatives]
… possible options for the net steps
A. Dont' publish Profile REC within this Charter, defer to nxt Charter B. Publish the Profifil as a WG Note in this Charter period C. Publish the Profile 1.0 as a REC ,make event mechanisms non-norative D. Publish Profile 1.0 as a REC with "HTTP Baseline" only
Lagally: event handling is still tbd
… Option C suggests publishing event mechanism non-normative in Profile 1.0 normative in Profile 1.1 after sufficient plugfests
… Option D suggests publishing Profile 1.0 only with "HTTP Baseline"
… Option A suggests not publishing Profile as a REC within this Charter period
McCool: Ben was in favor of option A here
… a compromise is take option C or D
… publish it in early stage in the next Charter
… we simply carry it forward
… 2 deliverables here, 1.0 and 1.1
… 1.0 just with HTTP Baseline
… can't wait until everything is done
Lagally: tx for your proposal
… however, would like to go for option C or D
… we now have good momentum
… and would like to continue to use it
Daniel: no strong opinion
… but going forward to REC requires two implementations
… possible Oracle and WebThing
… but not really sure at the moment
… Scripting API doesn't have enough support for WoT Profile yet
McCool: Actions is on the border line now
Lagally: not Actions in general but just sync/async Actions
Daniel: Events to be postponed, and even Actions still in flight from my viewpoint
Lagally: why don't you join the Profile call and join the discussion on the remaining difficulties?
… would try to meet all the requirements of the whole WG
… would go for option D when we're confident
Ege: would agree with Ben for option A here
… don't like 1.1 specs due to potential backward compatibility issues
Kaz: we should clarify all the remaining issues, e.g., those mentioned during this call, and register them to the wot-profile repository
… and discuss the details during the Profile call rather than this call today
Lagally: ok
… on the other hand, kind of concerned about the procedure
… wondering about when/how to close the discussion
McCool: would like to check if we have the Profile call next week
Lagally: no Profile call next Wednesday, August 17
(so the next Profile call will be on August 24)
WoT F2F meeting around TPAC 2022
McCool: how to organize the Pre-Meeting?
… do we want to have 2h meetings over five days as usual?
(no objections)
McCool: think we need enough time for discussion
Kaz: +1
McCool: Kaz and I will work on the logistics then
… we need to cancel all the other (ordinary) meetings
… during the pre-meeting on Sep 5-9
TPAC f2f
McCool: TPAC agenda next
… given the pre-meeting, would be good to have just summary during TPAC on Monday
… about Deliverables and new Charter
… generated deliverable proposals area
Deliverable proposals for the next WoT WG Charter
McCool: also discussion issue available
McCool: regarding the joint meetings
… Automotive, DID/VC are confirmed
… need to get registered
… note the early-bird rate is over
Ege: will participate remotely in the end
Kaz: please edit the f2f wiki directly
Ege: ok
McCool: we'll have the reports from the WoT CG and the WoT-JP CG as well
… anything else?
(none)
Publication
McCool: TD was published on August 3
… Discovery was also published today
… CR transition expected around August 31
McCool: we'll discuss the CR publication during the Pre-TPAC meeting
… can think about the latest WD as the CR candidates
Kaz: maybe there are some recent updates after the published WD
McCool: would expect the recent updates are minor
… but the latest ED might be better
… (generates proposal for resolution)
<McCool_> proposal: consider the current ED for Discovery and Thing Description and start a two-week review today, aiming at a resolution on CR Transition for both during the week of 5-9 Sept (TPAC pre-meeting)
McCool: objections?
(none)
RESOLUTION: consider the current ED for Discovery and Thing Description and start a two-week review today, aiming at a resolution on CR Transition for both during the week of 5-9 Sept (TPAC pre-meeting)
McCool: PR transition expected around December
Testing
McCool: approved the minutes from the Testfest
… am working hard to keep the latest implementations on the specs' repositories (on the main branch)
… TD has 37 unimplemented features
… 15 features with only one implementation
… will grab these numbers
… and put them on the agenda
… related issue on i18n
… features around Discovery are still at-risk
… still in-flight is Architecture
… some of the assertions are not testable as pointed out by TAG
… the rest are straightforward
… unfortunately, security call will be cancelled next Monday
… but will work on the remaining issues
… to make the assertion validatable
… Profile still need more work
… the implementation reports look good now
… but still some remaining issues there
… new stuff about language, etc.
Liaisons
OPC-UA
Sebastian: Doodle poll for the OPC UA liaison meeting has been extended with the candidates in September
… please respond
McCool: should prioritize some of the key people
Sebastian: right
McCool: tech discussion issue still available
DTDL
McCool: still waiting response from Erich
WoT CG
McCool: CG Charter review done?
Ege: yes
… Cristiano is talking with the CG manager
Ongoing actions
McCool: don't see remaining issues except the TAG review
… but still need to work on Accessibility for Architecture and Profile
WoT-JP CG
Kaz: they're working on a WoT promotion event for publishing industry
… should include topics on digital twin and metaverse as well
McCool: wondering about the expected reports during TPAC
TF reports
TD
Sebastian: would address as much issues and PRs as possible
… wondering if it's ok to start the official review phase
McCool: we've already made a resolution
… and it meant the ED the end of today :)
Marketing
Ege: JSON Schema case study
… whether it needs serious review or not
<Ege> https://
Ege: if people are interested would get reviews
… generated a GitHub issue for that purpose
Ege: also working the history page
<Ege> https://
Ege: you can get rendered results by accessing the netlify page above
McCool: what about Munich f2f and second workshop?
… should mention that
[main call adjourned; test call in 10mins on the same WebEx but different IRC channel (=#wot-pf)]