W3C

– DRAFT –
WoT Marketing

05 July 2022

Attendees

Present
Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima
Regrets
-
Chair
McCool
Scribe
dape

Meeting minutes

Approve previous minutes

-> Jun 14

Ege: Minutes look good to me.
… any remarks?

-> none -> minutes approved

Updates

Analytics

<Ege showing dashboard>

Ege: currently only I have access
… share report in monthly banner
… I can invite other to get this report also

Ege: FYI, report got into Gmail spam

Cristiano: Ahh, okay... i did not get any email
… maybe because of spam also

Ege: "documentation" page was mostly viewed one
… after landing page

McCool: map is also interesting
… most people from India

Daniel: didn't get email either.. think team-wot should work

Ege: team-wot is chairs only..

Daniel: Okay .. I see

Ege: Will add you Daniel

Cristiano: Still issues finding the report in mailbox
… we can resolver after the call

Issues

Unified Readme

https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/326

Ege: run into different readmes in repos
… suggest to synchronize
… Cristiano also mentioned the logo

McCool: agree with harmonizing readme
… suggest to also add latest publications
… and/or implementation reports
… should start with drafting one repo
… and then take it over for other repos
… starting with TD repo

Ege: Yes, TD has several deliverables

McCool: And TD hast *past* report also

Kaz: Clarifying expected topics is good ..
… however this is not a marketing issue
… maybe discuss it in editors/main call

McCool: marketing topic since it is about consistency
… we can work on template and show it in main call

Kaz: Agree, but should bring it back to main call

McCool: Yes, create a template like proposed-readme.md first

Ege: Agree
… back to logo discussion, https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/190

McCool: If we want to have it... it should be small

Cristiano: we don't have to block the other issue...
… and agree, it shouldn't be very BIG

Ege: can propose the style in template

New links to WGs

https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/285

McCool: We are still in draft
… will publish discovery next week

Ege: TD is fine
… nothing todo on this today

Kaz: w.r.t. the latest published draft.. we can get this automatically

Ege: Agree, should look into this

JSON Schema case study

https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/329

Ege: We talked with postman people and JSON schema people
… information needs to be published as the WG
… we are using JSON schema a lot
… got positive feedback from Coralie also

McCool: Agree
… should collect what we are using JSON schema for
… we use it to describe data (and validation)
… but we are also using it for describing semantics of data
… and in multiple places

Cristiano: different point of view: describe operation input and output
… absence of value can not be described (issue exists)
… we use JSON schema for validation
… and we have a special view.. e.g., extensions

McCool: lets describe use-cases and the limitations we are running into

<cris> +1

Ege: we also have "JSON Schema in RDF" document

Kaz: This is a liaison issue .. not just marketing

McCool: Agree
… someone needs to start writing the case study

Ege: Yes, kind of a press release.. with review phase

McCool: I plan to talk about it tomorrow in main call

Discussion

CG Collab: CG Charter

https://github.com/w3c/charter-drafts/pull/392

Ege: the WoT CG own repo, see https://github.com/w3c/wot-cg
… at the moment most of the referred documents are empty

Ege: Draft charter, see https://github.com/w3c/charter-drafts/blob/d76cdd5db4caff82e7bbb2167ad91ed1f3d05ddf/2022/wot-cg-2022.html

McCool: coordination vs. reporting back paras should be merged

Ege: I merged MMCs suggestions

McCool: current text is ok

Kaz: I am ok with updated charter draft
… would like to repeat important points
… 1. clear whether you are acting as chair or as a person
… 2. updated charter draft is fine. need to think about concrete activity

<cris> Michael's lost suggestion: https://github.com/w3c/charter-drafts/pull/392#discussion_r902615486

Ege: concrete activity ? Do you mean web meeting

Kaz: we need to continue to clarify which part of scope/target by which group when we (=WoT-IG/WG and WoT-CG) start actual collaboration.

<Mizushima> +1 kaz

Ege: one thing about contribution mechanics

McCool: deliverable in favor of specification

Ege: limitation on chat platforms like gitter?

McCool: we should not be too specific
… like "organizing appropriate tools" ..
… CG not being responsible

Kaz: CGs use different mechanism
… handled by Wendy and Ian Jacobs.. not W3C license
… person by person license

McCool: Chat considered as contribution ?

Kaz: I personally don't think so, but should talk with the Communications Team to make sure
… CG should concentrate use-cases and requirements
… also I personally think technical spec work should be done by the WG/IG side

Cristiano: final directions makes sense
… can we also define code of conduct?
… just in case.. someone is violating the rules

Ege: I think we have one

https://www.w3.org/Consortium/cepc/#unacceptablebehavior

Cristiano: Should we gather a resolution? MMC asked to join in main call.
… like accepting charter proposal

McCool: Maybe send email also
… cleaning up draft and mention it in main call

Ege: Okay... will update draft as decided and send email

McCool: and mentioning "supporting the charter" instead of accepting

Kaz: I am wondering whether we have concluded the discussion?
… or shall we extend this call some more minutes

McCool: Okay, lets type in proposed resolution

<Ege> proposed resolution: The Marketing TF agrees to bring the WoT CG Charter Draft to the WoT IG Main Call on 06.07.2022 in order to get the support of the IG and start the 1 month review process at the WoT CG.

<Ege> proposed resolution: The Marketing TF agrees to bring the WoT CG Charter Draft to the WoT IG Main Call on 06.07.2022 to request the support of the IG and start the 1 month review process at the WoT CG.

RESOLUTION: The Marketing TF agrees to bring the WoT CG Charter Draft to the WoT IG Main Call on 06.07.2022 to request the support of the IG and start the 1 month review process at the WoT CG.

<adjourned>

Summary of resolutions

  1. The Marketing TF agrees to bring the WoT CG Charter Draft to the WoT IG Main Call on 06.07.2022 to request the support of the IG and start the 1 month review process at the WoT CG.
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