W3C

– DRAFT –
ixml Group Teleconference

21 June 2022

Attendees

Present
John, Michael, Norm, Steven, Tom
Regrets
Bethan
Chair
Steven
Scribe
Tom

Meeting minutes

action items review

no V1 action items presently

Status Reports

ndw's implementation in good state, aiming for a 2.0 release by Balisage

Steven apologises that his implementation was down for a while earlier this week

JL's implmentation online

passing all tests older than a week

Sent everyone details on the XPath features; might try to get QT3 tests running against it.

ACTION: JW to get QT3 tests working on his XPath feature

Michael: Fixing test failures; only remaining gaps are insertion tests.

ACTION: Michael to close and re-open pull request #115

TFJH: not had much time to work on my implementation: think I'm going to step back from the committee meetings and spend more time on github/tests/balisage/JayParser

Steven: proposes reducing committee meetings to monthly for a while (second Tuesday of each month)

Tom: proposes keeping the same diary slot for other breakout meetings, e.g. balisage papers

Testing

JL: I find it hard to navigate: I could do with a way of just seeing current tests

NDW suggest cloning a second copy for ease of comparison

Instructions for pulling a given branch is available at the bottom of a given PR

Balisage

Steven: What has got to be done, and who is doing it?

NDW: happy for Michael to kick off with a summary of the V1 release
… or Steven?

<norm> Norm: I said Steven, but I don't care who does it.

Sessions are 45 minutes (30 mins talking, 15 mins questions)

Michael: the answer to "when can I use it" is "you can use it today"; lots of demos would be good.

Tom: a schematron based demonstration would be good: cf Jirka's paper in XML London (link to follow by email)

ACTION: Tom to set up a schematron demo

Michael: it would be good to show we get the same results for some sentence across the implmentations. Suggest Oberon language as a candidate.

NDW: the grammar for extracting docbook bibliographies would be great

Steven: That's the one I was intending to do.

JL: I have the XPath one to do.

ACTION: Michael to look at FXSL library for a source of XPath samples

JL: we are hampered by not being able to include one grammar in another (e.g. ISO dates in ISO lists)

Michael: for now, I would suggest simple macro expansion to build grammars outside of iXML

ACTION: Steven to introduce: prose by 1st July ready for conference proceeding

ACTION: all to produce proce precis of demos and implementations by 1st July ready for conference proceedings

website and implmentations

NDW: I propose putting the spec and grammars in a /1.0/ directory for future proofing

Steven: we can redirect the existing URLs to the latest version

ACTION: NDW to update web CI to produce such a webpage

<Tom> Next meeting: 12th July 2022 AD

Tom: suggest pragma paper authors meet this time next week

Summary of action items

  1. JW to get QT3 tests working on his XPath feature
  2. Michael to close and re-open pull request #115
  3. Tom to set up a schematron demo
  4. Michael to look at FXSL library for a source of XPath samples
  5. Steven to introduce: prose by 1st July ready for conference proceeding
  6. all to produce proce precis of demos and implementations by 1st July ready for conference proceedings
  7. NDW to update web CI to produce such a webpage
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 185 (Thu Dec 2 18:51:55 2021 UTC).

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No scribenick or scribe found. Guessed: Tom

Found 'Next meeting:' not followed by a URL: '12th July 2022 AD'.

Maybe present: JL, NDW, TFJH