wilco is not sure we have a full meeting of agenda items
<Helen> Scribe: Will_C
wilco: helps scribe
Wilco: May not attend task force meetings for whole month of may
Kathy: Meetings run better when
Wilco is here, but Trevor can help run it.
... I'll miss a couple in June too. Maybe twice in May?
Helen: Twice for May sounds better. No surveys, just PRs
Wilco: Likes a good survey
Kathy: I have write access for the sheets
Will: Calls for a vote?
Wilco: Leave it up to Kathy. But next week should probably be off
<Todd> I'm good either way with two meetings or more. Depending on how I'm feeling, I still tested positive for covid last night.
Helen: /s you might get more work done
Wilco: Next thursday is off. Kathy and Trevor will decide for the rest of the month
Todd: I get duplicate emails to email and list. Is there a way to just get the list emails?
Kathy: I'll look into it
RESOLUTION: No meeting May 5th, Kathy will let TF know about other meetings in May
Wilco: akn7bn and 67b10 good for
next week
... e7aa44 - has three approvals
... bc659a - gonna look at it because it should be ready
... Tom, can you accept some changes to b40c3
Wilco: 1839, need reviewers, got
reviewers
... 1837 - need some reviewers. Tom? Close to start showing
implementations on the wai website. this pull request describes
how to get there
... 1837 - adding tom and carlos and helen
... 1834 - reverted. Discussed two weeks ago. need to put
1.4.10 back into meta viewport rule. Patrick then convinced us
not to
... 1834 - most devices you don't reflow on zoom in.
Will: 1834 - mobile devices by design shouldn't reflow on zoom
Wilco: 1834 - take the rest of 1.4.10 out. Some in the background
Helen: 1834 - isn't there already a PR for this file?
Wilco: Do it separate, and they
shouldn't collide.
... I should probably do this
everybody is okay with going back on the decision. including Kathy
PR 1834 is closed, WIlco opening new one
wilco: -1778 - anything to talk about?
Helen: I have two options to change, that's one too many options
<Wilco> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pull/1833/files#r855359926
Kathy: Trying to get it to remove the note about label. but haven't seen 'visible identifier' in any of the rules
Helen: two files trying to keep it unified with . I used the format of the other files. whatever change is agreed here, I'll update there
yes
Wilco: Second option it is!
... it's all my fault on Will's pull request. Will did
great.
... Kathy - 1828 - PR can go into review. One week is fine
WIlco - PR1825 - still waiting for reviews.
Wilco: Tom your PR1820 - still
needs reviewers - kathy and helen added
... is 'dialogs' proper?
... PR1809 - two approvals, and need one more - adding Tom
TOm: Yeah, sure.
Wilco: No objections to the recharter. Any further comments about the ACT portion?
Nope.
RESOLUTION: Accept ACT portion of AG recharter as proposed
Wilco: No comments on this
survey. 6 accepted as-is
... Proposed move of rule
Helen: Seconded
RESOLUTION: Accept SVG has name rule for AGWG
Wilco: some comments in it
Trevor noted he was not sure the assumption is relevant
Helen: It says it's an object, not an image. 1.1.1 rule - could be a layout table. Object doesn't define
Wilco: Above it it specifies it's mime type or image
Kathy: DO you have to assign role="img" if you want it to be meaningful
WIlco: Without a role or accessible name, AT ignore it (i think)
Helen: What about a decorative object, with has an alt="Sunset at the beach" would it fail?
Wilco: This assumption needs to be more explicit. What about role="none" on the object? We don't have a good example of this
Kathy: What about changing the ending of the assumption to "if the object is decorative but not marked as decorative, then the rule might fail" SOmething like that
Tom had a comment about nested objects
Wilco: I don't think you can nest objects
Tim: When object was created it was design to be nested for fallback, not sure it applies anymore
Wilco: I think it's not anymore.
Wilco: adding notes to the spreadsheet
Wilco and Tom speak about the olden times before ARIA
Wilco: Everyone cool with adding
failed example with embedded elements inside <obj>
... Anyone up for liaising this thing. Wilco volunteers
Helen
Helen: I'll give it a go
<Wilco> https://deploy-preview-95--wai-wcag-act-rules.netlify.app/standards-guidelines/act/implementations/
Wilco: content is still very
drafty. Focused on programmatic side. We are only looking at
axe-core results today
... for a consistent implementation, the implementer reports
the same success criteria as what failed. I have completed
mapping . Now you can see it in 'accessibility Requirements'
table
... for example 'Text has minimal contrast' - tool reports
1.4.3 but not also 1.4.6
... WHat else would we like to see from these pages?
Tom: can we list A, AA, AAA in expected?
Wilco: Consistency in
coverage.
... Wanna pull back from Minimal. minimal is nuanced, partial
covers it. SO it should all be partial
Will: I agree minimal is too much nuance
Wilco: wrapping up!