Meeting minutes
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Erik: Not yet.
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ACTION-2309: Research xpath3 function definitions (Erik)
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Erik: Not yet.
ACTION-2315: Report on event handling in web components (Erik)
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Erik: Not yet.
ACTION-2312: Devise text for submission using @value (Steven)
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Steven: In the mail it's in HTML with the changes in bold, you may prefer to check it there.
Erik: I don't remember the use-case either for xforms-submit-serialize
rik: For consistencey, it should take place.
… we could deprecate that behaviour.
Steven: I would support that.
Erik: It is also a side effect, where something weird happens.
Steven: I vaguely remember now that it was John Boyer who proposed this, for digital signing.
Erik: But it is odd, because it replaces it, it isn't a filter.
Steven: I agree.
Alain: We do support it.
Erik: We too, but I dont think we ever used it.
ACTION: Steve mark xforms-submit-serialize as deprecated
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ACTION: Steven mark xforms-submit-serialize as deprecated
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2316 - Mark xforms-submit-serialize as deprecated [on Steven Pemberton - due 2022-02-11].
ACTION: Steven to include submit-serialize in submission using @value
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2317 - Include submit-serialize in submission using @value [on Steven Pemberton - due 2022-02-11].
AlaIn: @value overrides @ref, is that the right word. It still provides the context.
Steven: I'll try to reword to make it clearer
ACTION-2314: Compose text that matches the <control/> discussion for mirroring (Steven)
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Steven: Actually shorter than the text it replaces.
… the wonders of declarative definitions...
Erik: One thing. During initalization data goes from outside to inside.
… but you might want the opposite.
… the embedded form supplies the data.
Steven: I see the use-case; how should we indicate that?
Erik: We look to see if there are children elements
Steven: You use a heuristic?
Erik: If outside data is empty, we use the data from inside.
… we synchronise from inside to outside.
Steven: It sounds like how <instance @src= works
… maybe we can match that behaviour.
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Alain: I would have expected a private instance in the control, not accessible to the embedding form.
… it is a potential privacy issue.
Steven: Like reading someone's password?
Erik: Can't you do that anyway?
Steven: I do see the danger.
Erik: In a browser environment, it is accessible anyway.
Erik: You could make it explicit that it was OK to synchronise an instance.
Steven: Needs time to think about it.
ACTION-2313: Research the alternatives for 'dirty' data, and produce
code in all of them for comparison (Steven)
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Steven: Not this week.
Timescale Plans
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Steven: We should have picked one, so we could prepare.
… Let's do Repeat with automatic controls: Declaratively specifying what the user may do to repeat-items (delete, edit, insert etc).
… next week.
… So read up that for next week.
AOB
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