Meeting minutes
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<Jem> Jemma will be out of office and Matt will chair the apg meeting
Issue triage
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carmacleod: mouse behavior is different from keyboard behavior - focus stays on button if using mouse, but goes to first item if using keyboard
Matt_King: But in menu button example, focus does go to first item on mouse click
jamesn: We had to do it that way in order for screen readers to work
Matt_King: what do we need to do for this issue?
Matt_King: We aren't changing the example
Matt_King: In the menubar pattern, we say the first menuitem receives focus. We need to say it only receives focus if it was opened with keyboard.
Matt_King: But not with menu button.
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jamesn: I think we changed this in 1.2. There are no buttons in the example any more.
Jem: I'll take this
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jamesn: I think this has been fixed as well.
<Jem> "When focussing in the first week of a month and pressing Page Up or Page Down to a month where that same day of the week does not lie in that month the inactive date from the previous month is selected instead (same for last week of the month)."
jamesn: There's still something a bit weird about the behavior
<Jem> document says "Sets focus on the same day of the same week. If that day does not exist, then moves focus to the same day of the previous or next week."
jamesn: This is no longer an issue in 1.2
Open PRs
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Matt_King: We are just waiting for a few more reviews. Me, for editorial, Jess or Howard for Code/Test review.
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jongunderson: This is a one line PR, and I approved it.
Matt_King: Ok, great, I can handle this
Grid issue
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Matt_King: Are we talking about the pattern or the examples, because we don't have any examples yet.
jamesn: The pattern. We don't say how to select a cell.
Matt_King: You can operate on selected items, or on focused items if there is no item currently selected.
Matt_King: You could implement contiguous selection, but not in a grid where cells are editable.
jamesn: Having space be used to toggle selection would be useful.
Matt_King: I think we do need to edit the pattern.
Jem: So, editorial?
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Matt_King: More than that, because it's modifying the guidance
Listbox issue
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(folks are trying out the example)
Matt_King: There was some discussion in OpenUI about making space do the select.
Matt_King: I think a lot of people agree that space to select/deselect is easier to use in general.
jamesn: How common is a multi-select listbox? ListView is more common.
jamesn: Just trying to determine priority.
Matt_King: Would like to have this discussion again with Sarah present.
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jamesn: Since there's active work going on in this area, we can point to that.