W3C

Accessibility Conformance Testing Task Force

4 November 2021

Attendees

Present
dmontalvo, KarenHerr, kathyeng_
Regrets
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Chair
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Scribe
kathyeng_

Meeting minutes

ACT rules sheet and Surveys

wilco: messaged AG chairs that we have work ready for their review
… no response yet
… TF is trying to get 2.x rules published on W3 website. We have proposed and approved rules
… need at least 1 implementation to approve a rule
… currently 8 approved published rules
… 6 ready for AG to approve
… many proposed rules that need implementations

trevor: line height rule - will add assumption then ready to go

wilco: will look tomorrow
… aria-hidden PR - wilco left a suggestion on Carlos PR

wilco: annual review of published rules
… image has non-empty accessible name is good
… HTML lang is valid language tag has some changes for it
… PR #1738 needs to merge

trevor: add me as a reviewer

will: also add me as reviewer

wilco: leave this one open until PR resolved
… PR #1737 editorial

daniel and trevor: will review

wilco: leave open until PR approved

Open ACT pull requests

wilco: PR 1739 - 2 examples to review
… add kathy and daniel as reviewers
… other PRs for CG

Rules format update

<Wilco_> https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/pull/522

wilco: PR to add definition of implementation to ACT Rules format
… what a consistent or partial implementation is

wilco: try to match terminology up with VPATs?
… added more plain language descriptions

will: how do we verify complete?

wilco: what a tool report for rule test cases. do all passed report as passed, failed report as failed
… partially consistent - a failed example reports as pass
… added SC mapping under Complete

trevor: add reasoning and example would be helpful

wilco: of concern is for example, reporting a AA failure and AAA failure

kathy: if not claiming AAA would reporting the AAA failure be necessary?

wilco: drafted statement seems too strict

trevor: how about can report either SC but not more

wilco: or, report only by conformance level

trevor: if we don't have the SC requirement, implementers only need to pass/fail the examples. not sure that is enough

wilco: IBM reports only 1 SC per rule
… picking the SC they prefer. is that a problem?

karen: some only report the highest severity
… affects scoring

wilco: it is correct that multiple SCs are applicable

kathy: TT would fail all SCs

karen: let IBM pick the SC. they would need to defend it

wilco: if statement left in, ACT is removing that choice

daniel: see both sides

wilco: if an implementation tests image buttons and text buttons in one procedure, will only report 4.1.2. Need a separate procedures for image buttons
… SC mapping would constrain implementations

<Will_C> 0

<trevor> -1 - think something is needed but this isn't quite right

+1

karen: with trevor

trevor: wants people to show their work, just passing/failing isn't enough

wilco: poll to move forward without SC mapping (line 533)
… currently not tracking any SC now

trevor: can it be optional?

kathy: without SC mappings we aren't establishing conformance testing consistency

wilco (chair hat off): agree, feel it's important to have for improving consistency

wilco: will try to add more on conformance levels, different standards, example

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