Meeting minutes
<Matt_King> HAIR: Jemma
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https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/1814#issuecomment-954708336
Matt_King: we will start going down the issue list.
Matt_King: I believe PR #1814 is done.
Jemma: I checked Hi Contrast on PC & Mac. It looks fine.
Matt_King: we should raise an issue for the visual design
Jemma: can anyone give a comment on my visual review.
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Pull Request #1869: Set aria selected to active tree view item by kdoberst · w3c/aria-practices
Matt_King: I am confused about this PR and why are we doing this? Do we want to make this change?
zcorpan: we shouldn't make the change if it is not required.
<Jemma> original issue https://
sarah_higley: we could change wording or call it a selection thing but only if we add visual style.
sarah_higley: the current wording implies selection
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Matt_King: this is a pretty old issue but I believe we could write a response in that issue.
Matt_King: i will revisit this myself and comment to propose the future direction.
Jemma: thank you Simon for your work
Matt_King: This is now more editorial than anything else
zcorpan: I can look at the regression tests tomorrow
Issue #1267: Combobox Examples: Make compatible with touch-based screen readers · w3c/aria-practices
Issue #756: Alert Dialog Example: Is disappearing toaster alert WCAG compliant? · w3c/aria-practices
Matt_King: so issue 1267 only needs a code review
zcorpan: the PR is already reviewed and merged.
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sarah_higley: have the message be close to the action. have the check mark persist until you change it.
sarah_higley: a separate message so no timing issues
Jemma: possible note a message above the button
sarah_higley: it would be on the button itself
Matt_King: I am thinking about what the accessible name would sound like. I am thinking a check mark on a button would be hard to announce.
<Jemma> <div role="alert" id="alert_toast" class="toast hidden">Saved</div>
Matt_King: it feels more understandable if we separate the button from the status.
zcorpan: should this be a live region?
Matt_King: we would probably use role alert on the hidden message. It might create double speaking on some screen readers.
Jemma: do you want to work on this for the milestone?
Matt_King: if Howard or Simon have time to work in this it would be great.
Matt_King: the off screen element in the dom order prior to the save button
zcorpan: why do we want it to use aria-describedby
Matt_King: we don't have a screen reader equivalent to the icon
zcorpan: yes, this seems like a good change
Jemma: I left some notes on the issue and assigned it to you Simon.
Issue #894: Bug in example menu-button/menu-button-actions-active-descendant.html: tabindex · w3c/aria-practices
Matt_King: I am going to close that right now, it is done.
https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2071
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zcorpan: I looked at the PR and the comments and it seemed like a lot to dive into. Does someone have any suggestions?
Matt_King: I feel like this is going to be a lot of brain work to do in the coming weeks. I want to focus on closing bugs.
Matt_King: I do think we could get this into the editor's draft prior to the end of the year.
zcorpan: should we merge 2071 as is and treat the change as a follow up?
Matt_King: I will consider that option. I want to be careful we don't give guidance to cause people to do things they shouldn't do or not be in line with current practice. I will re-read it with the idea of what can be done minimally.
Matt_King: James and Sarah this might be a good one for you to read.
Jemma: can you share the guidance Matt?
Matt_King: the difference between focus and selection is the biggest misunderstanding. I am thinking about adding the section and selection.
Matt_King: we haven't really explained clearly the difference between focus and selection.
https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/milestone/2
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jongund: is this a formatting issue primarily?
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<Jemma> This doesn't follow https://
<Jemma> just simple linting issue
Jemma: do we agree on removing the prefix property for now?
Matt_King: if we can say don't use the vendor prefix unless there is a reason.
Matt_King: Jon can you check to see if it is needed for some reason.
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Matt_King: Jon if you could you provide a review on howard's work.
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Matt_King: Jemma can you help on https://