Meeting minutes
Charter
Action: Susan to review the charter
Action: David to review the charter
Ian: I will hold the CfC until hearing from David and Susan.
Remote meeting during TPAC
PROPOSED: Meet 25-28 Oct 2021
<clinton> +1 (Who knows what else I will be doing)
<smcgruer_[EST]> +1 (same :D)
Ian: Please send agenda suggestions
SO RESOLVED
SPC to FPWD
Ian: So far so good!
FYI: May do press and promotion after test results available (assuming good); aiming for early October
Stephen: Hope to see SPC in Chrome M95, of course subject to change.
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Ian: What is status of TAG review of SPC?
Stephen: Field by Danyao about 9 months ago; haven't commented in many months.
… once explainer is updated, I'll reraise with the TAG
Action: Stephen to reraise SPC with the TAG once the explainer has been updated (but independent of FWPD)
Deprecating Basic Card
<Anne> ?
Anne: Basic Card is useful as a generic card method.
… is there an alternative planned?
Ian: I had understood we are moving away from browser-stored data to payment apps; that is orthogonal to the data model.
Stephen: The reality of Basic Card was that there was not enough market interest in browser-based basic card. So I think we still have long term vision questions.
Anne: There is a difference between browser-stored and having a standardized data model.
Gerhard: I agree. The contract between a merchant and a card issuer...having a standard pattern is useful. It doesn't have to be basic card. It can be token + expiry date + cryptogram.
… that could be very helpful.
… doesn't need to be implemented in Chrome.
… what we've seen with SPC is that there is more uptake as a small problem compared to the "large problem" addressed by PR API and PH API.
… I'd like to see us explore another "small topic"...tokenized pan + expiry data + cryptogram
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<Gerhard> +1
<clinton> +1 brainstorm is good.
Action: Ian to coordinate a discussion on tokenized payment format (and reach out to Anne, Gerhard, Clinton, Adrian)
Web Monetization Workshop Recap
AdrianHB: Web Monetization is being incubated. Coil introduced this about 2 years ago. It's being incubated in the WICG.
AdrianHB: How it works:
* Payment pointer goes in HTML header as wallet address to receive payment
* Payments are done in the background from a web monetization provider (wallet); this is currently implemented as a browser extension
… lots of experimentation over the past year
… there is a "Grant" fund to support experimentation
Grant for the Web
… and there was a developer workshop a couple of weeks ago
… Uchi Uchibeke (Coil head of dev rel) will tell us the highlights
Uchi: One observation is we should use <link> instead of <meta> for payment pointers
… we are also simplifying the event model (2 instead of 3)
… another interesting topic was branding
… logo today has $ but we are going to work on internationalization and branding
… we may need a Web Monetization brand so that web sites can clearly communicate they accept payments through that method
… Next steps after workshop: (1) spec update (2) implementation of web monetization in browser (3) rafiki open source project
… we are looking to use Browser Scholar problem to foster web monetization on more browsers.
… I mentioned Grant for the Web to help fund sponsor projects related to web monetization
Uchi: Rafiki project shows power of ILP
[Demos that were shown at the workshop]
[First demo shows two wallets interacting with page in parallel]
[MicroDonor]
AdrianHB: As a reminder, Web Monetization intends to be an open standard; suggest watching some showcases.
… use cases include low-friction payments, accessing premium payments, and other use cases that would be facilitated by having low-value payment support built into the browser
… if you are interested, see the Web Incubator CG
AdrianHB: Web Monetization is close to some other use cases (e.g., digital goods)
… are there people here interested in these use cases, and should web Monetization come to this group when and if it's time to standardize?
… that's a question on our mind and we welcome input.
Next meeting
2 September