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ACT Rules Community Group Teleconference

10 Jun 2021

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aron, CarlosD, Jean-Yves, Wilco_, Daniel, ToddLibby
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Contents


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Call for review https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/461

<Wilco_> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pull/1609#issuecomment-853952691

Wilco: 3 final calls sent today, 1 from me last week

<Wilco_> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pull/1609/files#diff-63c2516aa77a2802a2aeb252efe29bd5ce71bdc3d0d6a72ac604e4da59ac9154

Wilco: regarding Patrick's comment (simplyfiyng rule a bit more)- reasonable, not a blocker
... I will make a change, we'll have to make another final call for it
... have a look at the other final call rules and leave a review

Carlos: nice seeing more reviews in the past couple of weeks

Update from the ACT Task Force https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OSkPFocXk4K3zYLnwS78WLsWO4PvE5yRcsauyefuIUI/edit?usp=sharing

Wilco: the scan of unpublished rules completed. A couple of them are blocked and the TF will look into them.
... almost 70 rules will get published as proposed rules.

Carlos: what's the timeline? will the rules exist in both places?

Wilco: hopefully by the end of this year.
... what is left is the automation part.
... the rules will not be removed from the community group web page immediately

Public speaking about ACT Rule

Wilco: I wanted to ask if people would be up for talking about ACT

Jean-Yves: I submitted a talk for ID24, we'll see next week

Wilco: please do so

I will help out, not sure where and when

Carlos: publish on ACT slack channel talks about ACT so that people can volunteer

Shadi: I mention ACT whenever I can, e.g. when talking about WCAG 2.2. or about tools. One of the things to be careful of are distinguish between your opinion and talking on behalf of the group

Wilco: good point
... good to provide accurate information about the inner working, what is ACT-TF and what is ACT-R

Assigned issues: https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues?page=1&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen

<Wilco_> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/assigned/WilcoFiers

<ToddLibby> I don't mind speaking at all and anywhere I can help out, I will certainly do so.

<Wilco_> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/459

<Wilco_> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/1593 hoping to have a PR open for semantic element next time

Wilco: done define SVG and HTML

<Wilco_> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/assigned/ajanec01

will create pr for https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/1603 and try to fix it

<Wilco_> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/assigned/carlosapaduarte

Carlos: I hope to address #1502 in next week
... #1445 should also be address in next week

<Wilco_> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/assigned/Jym77

Jean-Yves: I have pr on most of the issues

Jean_Yves: I think there are two pr that need reviews

Jean-Yves: the rest requires some group discussion

Daniel: #1576 has a pr so I will send an email with final call

ARIA Valid Value (6a7281) Pass Example 4 idref missing https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/1617

Wilco: aria-errormessage references non-existing element
... it may happen when the form control does not have a reference

Jean-Yves: I guess we may change the description a bit more clear what is "valid" id
... "valid" does not mean existing

Wilco: resolution: leave a comment in the pr to explain "valid"

Replace the "Each test target" phrase in expectations? https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/1594

Wilco: my suggestion is to change phrase "each test target" to something more explicitly related to applicability
... my impression is that people did not like "each applicable button" but "each applicable element" was better

Carlos: "each applicable element" may not be appropriate, the more explicit version, e.g. "each applicable attribute" is more appropriate
... if we go with the more explicit version people may stop looking at the applicability section

Wilco: I'm not too worry about it

Daniel: test target may not be understandable by some pople but each alternative may be problemmatic in its own terms

Jean-Yves: test targets are at the same level as outcomes and we could have a definition of test target
... it's not too helpful to be going to the definition

Carlos: did you have a feedback from someone about test target phrase?

Wilco: no, something I've not been happy about
... would you like to change it or not?
... do you think it should be improved on?

-1

<CarlosD> -1

<Jean-Yves> -1

<ToddLibby> -1

<daniel-montalvo> -1

Wilco: pretty clear

Carlos: We can still link to the definition. What do you think?

Jean-Yves: we can do it when someone raises an issue

Wilco: resolution: I will close the issue

Visible label part of acc name, extra space around numbers https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/1615

Wilco: does it work? This is to facilitate dictation software

Jean-Yves: splitting the numbers could be better experience
... I think it is a failure

<Wilco_> https://www.w3.org/TR/spoken-html/

Will check it and document findings in the issue

Wilco: resolution: we try to figure out if this works reasonabily well and if it does that we allow the rule to be less strict

Carlos: I'm ok with it

Daniel: Me too

Jean-Yves: Yes

Wilco: resolution: I will create a pr

<Jean-Yves> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+label%3A%22reviewers+wanted%22

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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