Meeting minutes
Lobbying Membership for Charter approval
Ted: @@1
Issues
Issue 378
Peter: privacy does not apply to all use cases. we for instance are using this API ourselves within Volvo vehicles
… the open source reference implementation is being considered for future hardware
Ted: we can also perhaps go so far as to say privacy concerns are irrelevant if information doesn't leave the vehicle
Glenn: the specification doesn't touch on concerns around jurisdictional privacy requirements
Ulf: key point is whether information if offboarded. once off, there isn't really anything that can be done in the vehicle to change that
Ted: it is possible if using something like Isaac's proxy reencryption suggestion, gives data owner rights that can be modified after off-boarded
Glenn: it would be nice if the vehicle owner can select stream of data provided to a given consumer, different sets for insurance, mechanic, etc
… I would like to see that in the specification
Peter: is that really part of VISS or responsibility of app interacting with it?
Ulf: that will be complicated
Ted to strike last sentence wrt regional privacy laws and add privacy concerns may be irrelevant depending on application use of information, whether anything is sent off the vehicle or otherwise tracked
Peter: someone could argue privacy concerns exist for information remaining on vehicle based on how it is used
Gunnar: GDPR has various phrasing like legitimate interest that is very carefully worded
… may be worth enlisting some expertise around that
Issue 373@@
PR @@
Ulf: this could be described in a policy document, bound to the roles
… roles are extendable even though we haven't said so
… we could bind further restrictions to roles
… it could either be a formal part of the specification or describe how implementers can handle in best practices
Glenn: the way we implement our Go devices, you go to the app and set the geofence parameters in privacy mode
… it may be more a feature of the app than in spec
Ted: how complicated is creating geofence, city/county/draw a shape?
Glenn: all of the above
Ted: if a radius, calculated based on center point, city/county would be lookup...
Glenn: we represent with simply coordinates
Ulf: I was thinking if we include in the spec, we would need to define this language
… this may be beyond our expertise. there may well be languages that do so already
… might be better not to formalize in the spec but leave in best practices initially
… or at least non-normative
Glenn: I agree
… we will need an interface and some OEM are looking at allowing apps in
Ted: I will reach out and update issue to indicate relegate to BP doc for now, spec if we can crystalize definitions for parameters
Glenn: based on various polutions concerns, geofence can also be used to encourage a hybrid to operate in EV mode - eg city of London