Meeting minutes
<tzviya> Date: 2021-02-12
<Ralph> previous 8-Jan
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tzviya: First item, Daihei, can you give us an overview!
Daihei: MediaDo has bee na partner of NetGalley for a while, and this was a mutually agreed acquisition
… we acquired 100% of Firebrand and Netgalley
… all under MediaDo International
… MediaDo is the largest ebook distributor in Japan
… it's a large part of the digital transformation in Japan
<Ralph> [Ralph arrives]
Daihei: in addition to ebooks, we want to provide other solutions for publishers, retailers, and rights owners
… anyone concerned with digital publications
… we intend to establish ourselves as a global publisher service platform
… FB and NG will be operating as is
… the intention is to enhance and expand FB's business
… MediaDo plans to invest in international publishing
… for W3C, I plan to discuss with Fran about participation in W3C activities
… publishing and beyond
… any questions?
tzviya: That's exciting
<Ralph> +1 exciting!
tzviya: one of the areas I would love to get them involved in Audiobooks
… Wendy has spoken with them previously
… it might make sense to set up a new member's welcome meeting with them too
Ralph: Agreed
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MediaDo + Firebrand
<Ralph> close this item
How can we help the TDM CG?
tzviya: Laurent started this to address article 17
… at this point he's posted a doodle poll to get the community together
… what can we do to support this
… any thoughts?
ivan: I would just repeat what Laurent said, we have set everything up
… he has contacted Coralie and others internally to get help from W3C
… he can write a blog or something else
… he has already contacted the AC reps of the applicable members
… his fundamental problem is that he needs TDM actors
… he's concerned that they develop a vocab outside of the community that would use it
… I presume that publishers are targets of TDM, and also TDM actors, like Elsevier
… any contacts we have
… get them to Laurent
… and he can take it from there
… for now he needs contacts
liisamk: We've encouraged publishers in the last two BG meetings to join or at least monitor
… tried to stress how it relates to their business
tzviya: Laurent is working on the publishers in the non-exempt category
… trade, etc
… building up the tagging to indicate that a book is not to be mined
ivan: Not only text, but also data
liisamk: Also to indicate licensing is possible
… Adobe involvement in this
… using it for images and PDFs
… it's important for people to be aware of
tzviya: Alot of the metadata is embedded in XMP data for scholarly
ivan: Separate requirements for scholarly
… for research
tzviya: We'll spread the word
Offering a WCAG 3 presentation to the Business Group
tzviya: Some of you may know that WCAG 3 has been released FPWD
… they want feedback
… I've spoken to some in the working group
… they would like feedback from publishing
… would the BG be interested in having someone come and present
liisamk: Yes please
… for the sessions in March
tzviya: Problem is that the feedback is needed in Feb
… is there a chance for a slot in the next BG meeting
liisamk: It's the week after next
tzviya: The 23rd? I will reach out
… people can read it on their own as well
… If she can't make it, we'll find an alternative for that meeting
… because of the timeline, if people have their own feedback, offer it directly
… we don't need to offer unified feedback
Ralph: I imagine it'll take people a while to read and gather feedback
… this is only the first working draft, there will be others in the futurre
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Ralph: the deadline is important but not the only one
George: I was thinking of recording Jean's presentation to make it available to the Asia-friendly time slot group
<liisamk> +1 to recording
Bill_Kasdorf_: Would it make sense for it to be a standalone presentation for everyone in the publishing activity
tzviya: Coordinating something like that might be challening
… we could invite everyone to the BG meeting
avneeshsingh: I agree with Bill, there's some deep technical matters in this
… one week is not enough time for deep feedback
… Matt is in the taskforce
… there are many proposals
… there will be a lot of back and forth on this version of WCAG
… we should definitely get some technical feedback
tzviya: There's a lot that went into this
… major change to the approach
… it's not just for the BG
… feedback needed on the approach not the SC
liisamk: I think it's important how we position this
… no one in the BG is discouraged from accessibility
… but keep them involved
tzviya: I'll contact Jeanne
Ralph: We should give Jean an idea of the of needs of the BG
… not a deeply technical presentation, but what's appropriate for this audience
tzviya: I'll debrief her, if she's not available, we'll figure something out
… there's lot of information in the email from Shawn
… linked in the minutes
… Matt has been participating, so publishing is represented
Update on Documentation TF and Wikipedia info
tzviya: We have a documentation TF
… we talked about updating wikipedia
… Zheng has kicked off the documentation TF in the working group
… Juan Corona is leading
… once that's updated ,we can use it to update the wikipedia
… I'll be meeting with Juan soon to talk about the history of the project and MDN
… will be involving Dom as well
… if there's real urgency to updating the wikipedia, we can do that too
… there's style guides for MDN we need to pay attention to
… myself, Lars, and Juan are currently volunteering
… we could use more help!
… what's the priority
liisamk: I think that we should probably do the wiki firest
… it's contained and very public
… Julian has offered help in the BG
… I can reach out and ask
<Ralph> EPUB in Wikipedia
wendyreid: Canadian effort via eBOUND to update docs
tzviya: When we were working on this a while ago, there were strict guidelines on specification summaries vs best practices
… as a starting point, there's no summary
… and a few best practices
… we've never done an EPUB 101
… we're focusing on that first
… the stuff in wikipedia is easy to update
… I won't give a timeline though
… I'll reach out to Juan and Julian
… as for eBOUND, we can figure out that as well
Ralph: Discussion in the CG
… poiinter?
tzviya: George also volunteered!
George: THere's this issue of number of hours in day...
Proposed charter for Math on the Web
tzviya: This was not on the original agenda
… because Brian asked
… there's a proposed charter
… if you are in a position to vote
… please vote
… or bug your friends
<Ralph> Proposed W3C Charter: Math Working Group (until 2021-03-11/12)
tzviya: if you would like to learn more, we can talk, or ask Brian to come explain!
Around the table
avneeshsingh: There are EPUBCheck releases coming up
… website release
… Ralph we need to coordinate with you
… we need a communication plan for this website
tzviya: Romain is going to be working on finishing the codebase, and we'lll draft a press release for early march
… once we have that release we'll share
… blogposts or articles from all of the major orgs
… get some publicity
… recognizing the website and it's purpose
avneeshsingh: We need a communication channel for Japan
tzviya: Daihei?
Daihei: Making use of the newsletters in the US/EU, then we can send those to the Japanese orgs to send to their membership
tzviya: Great
avneeshsingh: The actual build of EPUBCheck
… there will be 2 releases
… a production ready release
… the other will be a test release with the public java api changes
… we'll not be putting it in the production release
… to get feedback from those using the API
… there will be some internal refactoring and then a release in March
dauwhe: We're slowly trying to talk about our big issues
… that hven't been addressed
… the idea of origins
… how does EPUB relate to the web security model
… we had a long discussion of that
… this is complicated by how RSs implement EPUB
… heavy processing of the HTML
… via iframes or injecting it into an android webview
… we're all a little in over our heads
… send some questions to theTAG
… translate EPUB to the language of the web security model
… slowly writing tests
<Zakim> Ralph, you wanted to comment on fund raising
dauwhe: we did resolve to do the FWPD of the accessibility docs
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tzviya: Congrats on FPWD!
<Ralph> yay FPWD !
liisamk: WE're working towards another TPAC-like meeting
… two sessions same day in march
… hoping in the next week to finalize a plan for that
… inviting people and publicising
… good discussion this week with the japanese community about understanding the business cases
… the content you haven't converted yet
… Makoto helped with translations to continue the conversation
zhengxu: We had CG meetings this week
… we started the documentation TF
… juan is leading the project
… we're hiring!
… documentation is huge
… for testing
… once we get some direction from Dave/the WG, we can explore having the CG create some tests as well
… we had a followup meeting with the Asia time, only attendance from Australia
… lots of interest in accessibility
… schools have requirements, it's interesting to explore
… a11yTF might want to reach out to them
George: Probably before the next SC meeting
… the user experience guide should be finished
… a few little things to finish up
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Daihei: Outside of PBG, next thursday in Japan
… Cristina and LIA are holding a webinar
… for APL
… In Japan, rapidly acessibility has been taken into consideration
… we're asking Cristina to help with understanding the EUAA
… In Jan, Japan's longest running publication on publishing, they formed a committee on compliance
… barrier free reading system implementaiton
… Lots of attention and action around accessibility, I'll keep everyone informed of this
… I gave WCAG 3.0 to everyone
… Jean's speech will be helpful to the Japanese audience
avneeshsingh: Hiroshi Kawamura is the DAISY rep who has been involved, you should get in touch with him to collaborate with him
Daihei: Yoshii-san has been in touch
… his presence is important
George: We have the EPUBtest.org site up
… we've not done any testing of Japanese
… we'd be happy to help with it
… report the results on the site
Ralph: There was an email sent about the latest position on EPUBCheck fundraising
… good news
… the spreadsheet attached should not be publicly available
… I could remove the whole message
tzviya: Thanks
zhengxu: Not related
… to EPUBCheck
… about the CG
… we need help from Ralph, we're losing some CCs from the EPUB CG
Ralph: That conversation is a year old, I've reraised the question
… I need to get the answer I want
tzviya: Have a good weekend everyone!