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15 Dec 2020

Attendees

Present
cabanier, Leonard, dino, cwilso, Lachlan
Regrets
Chair
yonet
Scribe
Leonard

Contents


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https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr-hand-input/pull/71

Rik: 2 major changes to Hand Input
... 1: Change number to enum. Medical names will be used. General agreement -- provides for easier internationalization
... 2: Change "Hand" from array to map to account for #1. This is a breaking change, but only slightly
... Dom from TAG approved so this is more consistent with other documents

Lachlan: Implicit ordering based on edges. Now how is the order defined?

Rik: It is still ordered. Iterating over the Hand still returns the joints in the same order.

Leonard: Is this consistent with ISO/IEC 19774?

Rik: Consistent with OpenXR. Have not checked ISO.

Lachlan: Was this the entire extent of the TAG's feedback.

Rik: 1: Do not use integers, but use names. 2: Preferred shorter names, but after review accepted longer (medical) names

Brandon: In favor of all changes. <missed question...>
... ... concerned about migration path for early adopters.

Rik: Don't know who is supporting Hands API.

Aysegul: Manish did something.

Lachlan: Hololens and OpenXR have early implementations that may not be public.

ISO/IEC 19774-1:2019 (Humanoind animation): https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19774-1/V2.0/Architecture/HAnimArchitecture.html

Document is free and a "duplicate" original to the ISO version. In particular see

scribe: https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19774-1/V2.0/Architecture/concepts.html#TheHands
... for hands joint labeling

Ada: [Off-topic] Should I remove "Firefox Reality" from immersive-web-dev page

Jeff (jGilbert): Probably -- need to check

Rik: Thinks that the underlying s/w is being maintained

Ada: Asks Jeff to let her know about the status

<ada> https://github.com/immersive-web/immersiveweb.dev/issues

<Lachlan> Commutes are deprecated

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<yonet> https://photos.app.goo.gl/PSuDvtmBjYruhmit9

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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