W3C

Accessibility Conformance Testing Teleconference

29 Oct 2020

Attendees

Present
Levon, Trevor, Wilco, Hidde, KathyEng, MaryJo, Daniel, Shadi, Charu
Regrets

Chair
MaryJo, Wilco
Scribe
Charu

Contents


ACT Rules template design https://w3c.github.io/wai-wcag-supporting-documents-redesign/2020-07-15-prototype-act.html

Wilco: have a guest, Hidde to talk about redesign of ACT rules

Hidde: redesigning the ACT rules in the same form as WCAG
... welcomes suggestions, questions, concerns

Shadi: we will put this on a survey for comments
... just putting all together and making it easier to consume
... the Overview may change to take just about ACT rules
... will work with the chairs to propose the text
... Important to make sure the organization makes sense as input
... questions on One sentence description, organization on the survey

Travis: raised the question about examples

Wilco: yes that is in the plan, look at the examples in the ACT rules community
... would look similar
... color coding will help, make it easier to read
... The order of the mapping and applicability was changed

Hidde: no that was not intentional

Shadi: there was a plan to put the mapping on the right side bar

Travis: have to be careful, side bar is read last by a SR

Hidde: we can address that

Shadi: Use of side bar was to applicability first for folks to understand the rule

Daniel: Have difficulty knowing whats in the sidebar, test cases are grouped by category and can be collapsed

Shadi: yes exactly the type of input we need to decide on the design
... on organization and order

Hidde: need to add the heading
... question is does the techniques have mapping to SCs?
... yes...we put it as data like

Kathy: will the anchor link on the test cases be added?

Shadi: no, we can add it

Kathy: anchor outside of the heading is OK, inside is a problem

Shadi: All Techniques have that functions and few other places so we can put in the rules

Wilco: ok lets get the survey out

this is exciting

joint meeting with ACT-R CG next week?

Wilco: had a an interesting discussion with Siteprove, i want to use the next call as a joint call with the community group
... to discuss accessibility support and ACT rules, context was the iframe rule
... We don not include test cases that fail in some browsers, but for iframe we cannot ignore that problem
... good topic for a joint meeting

Levon: to get some ideas from the community group?

Wilco: yes, do we need to get access to Zoom?

Shadi: yes, have them ask the password in IRC

Results of CFC on the decision-making process

Wilco: CFC got approved?

Mary Jo: one thing from Moe

Wilco: change suggestions requested, seems mostly editorial
... Shadi can you make the edits?

Shadi: some content may need rewording, see the comment at the top
... No change o meaning but changes still may need a CFC
... we could make the edits and publish and if there is a bug we can still edit it after we publish

Wilco: hearing no disagreement, let do that

'audio' or 'video' that plays automatically has a control mechanism: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/93339/ACTControlForAutoplay/results

<Levon> I'm going to have to drop a few minutes early today, I have a 3 hour meeting in 15 minutes... :/

Wilco: Comment from Kathy about assumptions
... yes we are making an assumption about the control at the top

Mary Jo: same comment about the mapping to G170

Mary Jo: yeah this is introducing additional aspect not included in the SC

Mary Jo: may be talk with AG WC

CPandhi: Comment about control mechanism

Shadi: we have to bring this to AG attention

Mary Jo: yes bring it up as an issue, so it gets addressed in the future

Trevor: Seems like the applicability takes care about >3 seconds

Wilco: this does not cover the edge case of a 5 minute video with 2 second audio
... looking at the implementation responses for the rules
... Liaisons should put issues pass feedback

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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