<sarahhorton> https://gist.github.com/xero/2d6e4b061b4ecbeb9f99
Sarah did subcommittee introduction
<sarahhorton> take up item 1
Sarah introduced herself
<sarahhorton> Sheri introduced herself
Chris (handle: Crispy) introduced himself
Suzanne introduced herself
Stacy introduced herself
Stacey* introduced herself (sorry for misspelling your name)
Todd introduced himself
<srayos> Thanks, Sheri! No problem.
Fredrick introduced himself
Sarah shared her thinking on the where and how of meetings - today is a kickoff, suggested working meetings with homework and collective steps to move forward
longer meetings periodically
plan B is shorter meetings but will ultimately move more slowly
Sarah prefers plan A
Plan C - ad hoc meetings, more async work
Sarah suggested discuss then vote
Sheri suggested we need to be cognizant of timezones for scheduling regular meetings
Sarah clarified IRC wouldn't be used for design workshops, too hard to scribe
Plan B would use IRC
Sheri reminded people that we can split up scribing responsibilities if it gets too onorous
Chris preferred plan B
Sarah suggested there could also be a hybrid - the occasional longer design sessions with other regular shorter meetings. Sarah commented that progress seems to be excruciatingly slow with Plan B
Fredrick asked if there was going to be a mailing list
Sarah said she would check with Jeanne
Vote
<sarahhorton> Plan A — design workshops Plan B — working meetings Plan C — asynchronous Plan D — Plan A + B
<srayos> Plan D sounds effective, with consideration for time zones
<Crispy> +1 Plan D
<st> +1 Plan D
<ToddLibby> +1 Plan D
+ 1 Plan D
Plan D carried the vote, Sarah pointed out we can tweak it if it doesn't work
Sarah will take a stab at setting up meetings with shifting timezones to give everyone the most opportunity to attend
Next topic: how to collaborate/communicate
Sara proposed setting up a basecamp project
Sarah*
<Crispy> Wiki: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/Error_Handling#Conference_Call
Sarah will send out a basecamp cheatsheet with features to avoid due to accessibility issues
Use the wiki page, not google docs
wiki, basecamp, IRC, zoom
are the primary communication channels
Crispy volunteered to do a write up on the wiki
Sheri asked if our work should be "Feedback" and not "error handling"
Sarah said she would put Sheri's question as the first question at the next meeting
<sarahhorton> purpose: define guidelines related to errors and create content to support them using the WCAG 3 framework.
Homework - think about that purpose and what it means
next topic - planning the plan (meta planning)
Sarah proposed the plan should be design-focused
Sarah will put together a proposal for the plan for the next meeting
Stacey - what do we see as an error?
<srayos> That's a broad term... definitely poor instructions (required, format, etc...)
Sheri thinks that future proofing this is the trickiest part
Christian asked if people had reviewed the WCAG 3 framework
<srayos> Also placement, using only color to identify errors, modals that do not announce/do not close/ do not scale at zoom
<srayos> Perhaps we can break into errors by error type for small bites of the elephant?
Sarah suggested people review the FPWD for Silver to think about how we fit into that framework
<st> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sInhvjkvq5WASlOrEMfshAZSVQB8kM1clRWfGXfVEFI/edit
part of our role is to be a guinea pig for the framework and suggest changes if needed
<sarahhorton> Draft of WCAG 3 FPWD (in progress): https://w3c.github.io/silver/guidelines/
<sarahhorton> ACTION: Crispy to update wiki with communication and collaboration mplan
<sarahhorton> ACTION: sarahhorton to schedule workshop meetings and group meetings
<sarahhorton> ACTION: sarahhorton to review Basecamp VPAT and document issues and workarounds
<sarahhorton> ACTION: sarahhorton to draft project charter
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