<scribe> Scribe: Ted
<scribe> scribenick: ted
Ted summarizes meeting
Adnan: still on todo on our side
MagnusF: I am leaving JLR, last
day this coming Thursday and going to Toyota
... Steven Martin will take over on RPC as well as coordinate
on VSS/Gen2 for JLR
... I will provide him personal support and facilitate the
transition, hope to be able contribute
Various: Congratulations/good luck
Ted: Ulf how would you like proceed? we can discuss some of the comments here, decide to proceed with the PR per convention and raise issues
Ulf: Isaac and I intend to
respond to all comments and already planning on changes based
on them
... ok to accept
... wait a bit for us to respond and give clearance
... VIN could be solved with a psuedo-VIN
Ted: yeah, could be eg a md5sum
Ulf: there are certainly many
angles. Sanjeev and I implemented one compression/encoding
schema and will continue to refine it
... we have made several iterations with an even better
compression rate and additional ideas
MagnusF: I also replied to that
thread, think we should look at Protobuf or other format
... should look at data plane
... or control plan. when we run into this issue for eg backup
camera we steer to separate plane
... we do not want to run control functions and data on same
plane
Ulf: video streams should never be sent over Gen2
MagnusF: agree
Ulf: we'll use control plane to
link to streaming
... in discussion with an OEM we have a very strong stated
opinion on every byte counting
... Gen2 payload is way too big for them
MagnusF: again protobuf comes to
mind
... I think the interface from vehicle to cloud, it should be
something well supported for integration
Ted brings up GENIVI CCS and ExtVeh
Gunnar: they don't go there wrt formats etc
[clarification it is all about off boarding]
Ted: I've always seen this more
as a push than a pull...
... I could see alt formats in Gen2 to prepare for sending on a
push
MagnusF: agree, push from
vehicles not pull from cloud
... on the vehicle we don't have to worry about compression
[discussion of what resides where]
[Gen2 can run on vehicle which brings up the push to cloud topic. it can also run on a server in cloud]
Ted to write up issue/concerns
MagnusF: every byte counts
Based on survey 7PST/10EST/16CEST etc is the best time but encouraged people to respond by end of day
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