W3C

- DRAFT -

Silver Task Force & Community Group

21 Aug 2020

Attendees

Present
jeanne, Francis_Storr, Chuck, MichaelC, Todd, sajkaj, CharlesHall, bruce_bailey, Fazio, Caryn-Pagel, KimD, Jan, sarahhorton, mattg, kirkwood, AngelaAccessForAll, Rachael
Regrets
Makoto, PeterKorn, Shawn
Chair
Shawn, jeanne
Scribe
Todd

Contents


<sajkaj> presetn+

<jeanne> scribe: Todd

finalizing Methods from alt text subgroup

<jeanne> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BbSbTmBs8rS3u5cfwL9yAo2bqK1QMxXczYGn2pw3hFg/edit#heading=h.gcp2xs1pb2f1

<jeanne> Using alt attribute on img element (HTML)

<jeanne> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BbSbTmBs8rS3u5cfwL9yAo2bqK1QMxXczYGn2pw3hFg/edit#heading=h.eyftmriw7ts1

<CharlesHall> note: scribe may not recognize everyone by name

<CharlesHall> by voice I mean

<scribe> new to this, please bear with me.

<Chuck> +1 agree

<Jan> +1 to Charles

<jeanne> Provides a text alternative to support people using assistive technology.

<kirkwood> AI as well

<Fazio> +1

<kirkwood> surfaces information to AI as welll

<sarahhorton> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1h5IiwbIvsWZr8N2qXNm9NQBR46gQWmfvWpDvtxHxR9o/edit#heading=h.lnxtengy1q8c

<KimD> Functional Needs doc (for reference): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eJkgXqbh7dx3uD6XAy8XAANmwfbbVZ5GKb_gbsUdkVs/edit#heading=h.4jiwp8jpc143

<KimD> Functional Outcome: Provides a text alternative to make non-text content accessible for different user agents.

<jeanne> Provides a text alternative to make non-text content accessible for people using different user agents.

<jeanne> Provides a text alternative to make non-text content accessible for people using different user agents or assistive technologies.

<bruce_bailey> +1

+1

<KimD> +1

<CharlesHall> title: [DRAFT] Method: Text alternative for Image of text (Using Method New Template)

<KimD> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1h5IiwbIvsWZr8N2qXNm9NQBR46gQWmfvWpDvtxHxR9o/edit#

<CharlesHall> the functional needs are specifically written to include the scenario and context and not just ability

<CharlesHall> in general, yes. the functional outcome is a testable statement specific to the method.

<jeanne> Critical Failures will be defined as being on the path. \

<kirkwood> critcal failure should be on the path. agreed

<kirkwood> +1

<jeanne> +1 to assumning it is on the path.

<KimD> +1 - we shouldn't repeat. If there's confusion we could add a note somewhere

<KimD> What is important and why: That people who use assistive technology like screen readers are able to determine information in an image of text.

<Fazio_> Important to convey context for individuals with difficulty comprehending

<Francis_Storr> https://www.w3.org/TR/html53/semantics-embedded-content.html#examples-of-scenarios-where-users-benefit-from-text-alternatives-for-images#example-ee4a6773

<Zakim> Chuck, you wanted to say these are excellent comments to make in FPWD

<Fazio_> yay!

finalizing Methods from content structure (akaheadings) subgroup

<jeanne> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ya8LB2YL0qRHdFEHIQoXG8rfaR8fdUpcO79ceMiGLQs/

<KimD> Functional Outcomes for Headings: Organizes content into logical chunks with heading text relevant to the subsequent content to make locating and navigating information easier and faster.

<KimD> - Uses visually distinct headings so sighted readers can determine the structure.

<KimD> - Provides semantic structure that conveys a sense of hierarchy that helps the user explore and navigate the text material to support assistive technology -- headings are coded as headings.

<jeanne> +1 blocks

<Chuck> +1 slideware and +1 Janina

<Zakim> jeanne, you wanted to say h1 is HTML specific

<Rachael> Maybe "Every page should have a high level, overarching heading"

<CharlesHall> the community is divided. the conversation occurs daily.

<KimD> +1 to the concert about only one H1.

<CharlesHall> ‘view’ is fine for now. at least, it’s better than page.

<KimD> +1 to "view"

blockquote or cite I would assume

<Zakim> Chuck, you wanted to say let's debate in public commentary

<CharlesHall> i have a concern with a list of ‘exceptions’ specifically as it will be compared to the use of exceptions in 2.x

<Rachael> +1 to Thank you!

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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Present: jeanne Francis_Storr Chuck MichaelC Todd sajkaj CharlesHall bruce_bailey Fazio Caryn-Pagel KimD Jan sarahhorton mattg kirkwood AngelaAccessForAll Rachael
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