W3C

– DRAFT –
WAI Curricula Task Force Meeting

28 July 2020

Attendees

Present
Carlos, Daniel, Estella, Gerhard, Howard, shadi
Regrets
-
Chair
Daniel
Scribe
shadi

Meeting minutes

<dmontalvo> Date: July 28 2020

FYIs on proposals we have been working on

New layout for competencies to avoid repetition

<dmontalvo> Zakim: https://‌deploy-preview-238--wai-curricula.netlify.app/‌curricula/‌developing-accessible-content/‌structure-and-semantics/#competencies

<dmontalvo> -

DM: grouped competencies to avoid repetition
… and added expand/collapse to allow skipping
… thoughts on this?

GN: looks good
… like this version much more

https://‌wai-curricula.netlify.app/‌curricula/‌developing-accessible-content/‌structure-semantics-and-navigation/

EO: like this much more
… but were prerequisits removed?

DM: no, just linked to overview page

<dmontalvo> https://‌deploy-preview-238--wai-curricula.netlify.app/‌curricula/‌developing-accessible-content/‌structure-and-semantics/#competencies

<dmontalvo> -

EO: better structured in this new version

<dmontalvo> https://‌deploy-preview-238--wai-curricula.netlify.app/‌curricula/‌developing-accessible-content/‌structure-and-semantics/#competencies

<dmontalvo> -

Learning outcomes to sign-post cross references

<dmontalvo> https://‌deploy-preview-238--wai-curricula.netlify.app/‌curricula/‌developing-accessible-content/‌structure-and-semantics/#topic-page-headings

DM: agreed we need to sign-post related requirements for other roles
… new proposal in topic "Section Headings"

[[describe complimentary requirements for authoring heading texts and designing visual styles for headings]]
… could have similar learning outcomes throughout as needed
… any thoughts on this approach?

<dmontalvo> [[describe complimentary requirements for authoring text alternatives of textual and complex images]]

CD: do you think "complimentary requirements" understood?
… or does it need some description?

HK: little confusing
… maybe example but may get too long

GN: agree confusing without example or such

SAZ: how could we address the issue differently?

EO: think one of the issues is the term "describe"
… would use a more specific verb
… maybe "identify" or "list"

CD: also wonder about the term "complimentary"
… maybe can be more explicit that these relate to other roles
… like "describe requirements for content authors that write headings and visual designers that style them"

GN: maybe "have an idea of how write and design headings"

DM: maybe "list"
… inline Bloom's Taxonomy

EO: also change from passive to active

DM: will take back this input

Broadening scope of Module 2

<dmontalvo> https://‌deploy-preview-238--wai-curricula.netlify.app/‌curricula/‌developing-accessible-content/‌navigational-menus/

DM: now also include application menus
… was planning to have them in the widgets module
… but now have them here
… thoughts on this?

https://‌wai-curricula.netlify.app/‌curricula/‌developing-accessible-content/‌navigational-menus/

<dmontalvo> https://‌wai-curricula.netlify.app/‌curricula/‌developing-accessible-content/‌navigational-menus/

CD: concerned about complexity of this topic
… requires knowledge of WAI-ARIA
… is this something that students know?

DM: refer to some ARIA concepts in the prior module
… like headings and landmarks
… maybe need to add to the competencies

CD: agree

GN: not sure if application menus should be commonly used
… sometimes misused
… should add comment on that

DM: could be a learning outcome
… scoping application menus
… to clarify when to use and potential down-sides
… not interchangeable to use both types of menus
… explicitly for desktop-like applications

EO: replaced "single-level" and "multi-level"?

DM: not exactly, just organized content differently

HK: good thing is consistency with Tutorials
… easier cross-referencing

SAZ: was definitely not by intention
… started off from scratch to not get biased
… but went in circles and came back to Tutorials structure
… probably good indication for Tutorials!
… or subconcious bias

HK: good thing to have this consistency

CD: looks good
… agree with GN about adding caution note

DM: need to be much more clear about scope of application menus
… and explaining the difference to other menus

HK: maybe specifically add "not common"
… directly in the heading

SAZ: in the past such generic labelling had become limiting
… prefer to do in the learning outcomes
… teachers need to decide what they want to teach

CD: first learning outcome "identify situations where an application menu is appropriate"
… although not sure if that is a competency for developers

DM: "identify" does not mean they are solely responsible for it
… enough to have some degree of awareness

Closing

DM: would like to ask you to go through the two remaining agenda items
… where would you place "images of text" in the current organization?
… and other agenda item is on Module 6
… currently first topic is introduction to WAI-ARIA
… but that repeats the Intro curriculum
… suggest introducing concept of progressive enhancement instead

DM: not sure about meeting next week, will let you know

Introductions

GN: first project on accessible design in 1997
… did some lectures over the years
… look forward to this work on curricula

DM: thank you Gerhard!

Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 121 (Mon Jun 8 14:50:45 2020 UTC).

Diagnostics

Succeeded: s/gruoped/grouped

Succeeded: s/explan/expand/

No scribenick or scribe found. Guessed: shadi

Maybe present: CD, DM, EO, GN, HK, SAZ