<jeanne> presentation)

Timeline for getting to FPWD

Chuck: Concerns about Silver slipping past timeline. 2 months given to get something published - per management
... Plan has been developed by AGWG needs review by task force and leaders

Jeane: thank you :)

Jeanne: Content subgroups need two (alt text, clear language, vision contrast) accelerate writing functional outcomes, updating tabs (not scoring) priortize functional outcomes

Janina: Is notion to cover a couple various tabs?

Jeanne: yes

Chuck: goofy hello :p

no

welcome Julia Chen

Welcome Caryn Pagel

Editorial template for Functional Outcomes (see Rachael's

<CharlesHall> I have both working definitions in the Functional Needs document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eJkgXqbh7dx3uD6XAy8XAANmwfbbVZ5GKb_gbsUdkVs/edit?usp=sharing

Jeanne: Editorial Template for Functional Outcomes (XR subgroup worked on captioning. How to phrase outcomes?). Comments? Need conclusions today if possible.

please paste definition

<CharlesHall> Functional Outcomes are one sentence written in plain language (or as close as you can get) with two clauses:

<CharlesHall> The first clause describes the result if the user need is being met.

<CharlesHall> The second clause describes how it benefits the user.

<bruce_bailey> Is that definition in the google doc just shared?

<CharlesHall> A statement that describes a specific gap in one’s ability, or a specific mismatch between ability and the designed environment or context.

<jeanne> Write Functional Outcomes https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gfYAiV2Z-FA_kEHYlLV32J8ClNEGPxRgSIohu3gUHEA/edit#heading=h.rbn6yq3f7i4b

<CharlesHall> A statement that describes a singular objective of a user has been met – usually in the context of a task or overall goal – that may need to name or cite a functional need.

<CharlesHall> Passive Voice Examples: The headings were perceived. The headings were understood. Active Voice Examples: Users perceived the headings. Users understood the headings.

CharlesHall: outcome is it did or did not meet

Janina: concerned that these are statements of facts

<jeanne> “Uses visually distinct headings so sighted readers can determine the structure.”

Jeanne: earlier work in February above

<jeanne> “Provides semantic structure to support assistive technology-- headings are coded as headings.”

<KimD> +1 to Janina :-)

JF: both examples aren't synonymous

<Chuck> DF: Discussed at length in last sub-group meeting.

<Chuck> DF: Needs of the user could be "user perceived headings..." etc. One set of functional outcomes, that maps to functional needs.

<jeanne> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gfYAiV2Z-FA_kEHYlLV32J8ClNEGPxRgSIohu3gUHEA/

<Chuck> Jeanne: I believe it's the opposite. Functional outcomes are after the needs.

<Zakim> sajkaj, you wanted to discuss avoiding tautologies

<Chuck> DF: You have the functional need, related to the disability, and the user need, which is what they are using (in this case ICT).

No argument here

Charleshall: functional need is contextuaaal

Jeanne is there disagreement

<CharlesHall> A statement that describes a specific gap in one’s ability, or a specific mismatch between ability and the designed environment or context.

+1 if free -1 if not

<Crispy> +1

<jeanne> +1

<Julia> +1

+1

<Chuck> +1

<sajkaj> +1

<CharlesHall> +1

<kirkwood> +1

<Francis_Storr> +1

I think we have lift off

<bruce_bailey> +1

<Chuck> me/ RESOLUTION: A functional need is a statement that describes a specific gap in one’s ability, or a specific mismatch between ability and the designed environment or context.

RESOLUTION: A functional need is A statement that describes a specific gap in one’s ability, or a specific mismatch between ability and the designed environment or context.

Jeanne: do we agree on user Neds or need to discuss?

CharlesHall: subgroup discussed and has draft

<CharlesHall> Definition (high-level) The end goal a user has when embarking on a path or process through digital means.

<CharlesHall> Definition (low-level) A task the user needs to accomplish.

<CharlesHall> Content Creation guide says: “a list of groups and the barriers they encounter; a list of the common needs and the unique needs of each group”

<Chuck> CH: Example: A user needs to pay a bill.

<JF> +1 as not all web contyent is "a task"

Jeanne: 2 years ago discussions about user barriers common, unique needs, = user needs

JF: Don't recall consensus on task based testing. Not all web content is task based testing. Multiple ways of testing accessibility

good point

JF: don't want to box ourselves into 1 way of evaluating content

Janina: might work if looking at it by set of particular user needs

<Julia> +1 to some user needs are not task based but discovery. Prefer testing components (an image has alt text), pages (all images on the page have alt text), and tasks (user browsing photos with screen reader can hear alt text).

<JF> What is the task here? https://akirodic.com/p/jellyfish/ (WARNING: if you have vestibular issues you might not want to click on the link)

<Julia> *meant to say browsy not discovery earlier

Jeanne: User need originally meant to help write ne, migrate existing, content for Silver. More prominent user needs, asserting point, testing if/how needs are met

<jeanne> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1zUqVZnSKEmQuRpd7aTLvVeI_A-IV0ly3qt3glqqpNBc/edit#slide=id.g8c4beda184_0_353

<jeanne> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1zUqVZnSKEmQuRpd7aTLvVeI_A-IV0ly3qt3glqqpNBc/edit#slide=id.g8c4beda184_0_386

<CharlesHall> in the UX field, passive consumption is also a task if the end goal is simply to read or watch content

<Julia> +1

+1

<Julia> But sometimes you don't know what your end goal is

<JF> +1 Julia

<Chuck> DF: Process is defined that the user has a process to go through, to meet a goal.

<Chuck> DF: A user doesn't need to know the end goal in order to perform a task.

<Crispy> +1 to DF's definition

<CharlesHall> Functional Outcome Draft Definition: A statement that describes a singular objective of a user has been met – usually in the context of a task or overall goal – that may need to name or cite a functional need.

JF: which is why I commented

<Crispy> Unagi Lol

<CharlesHall> The first clause describes the result if the user need is being met.

Janina: no other operational definition to discuss

<jeanne> The first clause describes the result if the user need is being met.

<jeanne> The second clause describes how it benefits the user.

can you paste that Jeanne?

<jeanne> Functional Outcome Draft Definition: A statement that describes a singular objective of a user has been met that may need to name or cite a functional need.

CharlesHall: communicates point but may need clear language editing

<CharlesHall> Users perceived the headings

<jeanne> Uses visually distinct headings so sighted readers can determine the structure.

Jeanne: thinks above is happy medium

Chuck: isn't past tense, historical, not sure if it matters though, or was a intentional

Sounds like POUR principles

JF: Charles is asking for higher order request, Jeanne sample is more focused/targeted

Rachael: conformance model evolution will determine how we associate with needs

Jeanne: past- functional outcomes at a lower level and applied to methods

<jeanne> Headings example:

<jeanne> “Organizes text into logical chunks to make locating information easier and faster.”

<jeanne> “Uses visually distinct headings so sighted readers can determine the structure.”

<jeanne> “Provides semantic structure to support assistive technology-- headings are coded as headings.”

<jeanne> “Conveys a sense of hierarchy that helps the user explore and navigate the text material.”

CharlesHall: not looking for higher order, but plainest language between outcome as goals and outcome being met

Janina: some of nuance was missing

<JF> Users perceived the headings

JF: higher order request of CharlesHall id further defined by Jeanne past above
... how does this effect scoring?

<Zakim> Rachael, you wanted to ask if these as worded are closer to guidelines?

<CharlesHall> answer to JF = I don’t know. the definition was not written from the perspective of conformance.

ok

I find it easier to separate first

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