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(Introductions)

Matt_King: Rob, I saw that you were working on fixing some issues

rob_fentress: Yes, I created a PR.

Stakeholder discussion

Matt_King: My goal is to find more people to work on the project full time or close to full time
... because there is too much work to be done for just volunteers
... at the normal w3c volunteer hours, this project would probably take 20 years to complete

(discussion of assistive technologies that we are testing)

Matt_King: (rough numbers of amount of work to finish the project)

rob_fentress: is there a scientific study on usage of screen readers?

Matt_King: That could inform this project, but I'd like to focus a small sub set at first
... we need real investment to meet the goal. I'm working on getting funding from Facebook to move this forward.
... We have been partnering with Bocoup for the engineering aspect
... I would like to partner with Accessibility companies like TPG and Deque. They could contribute expertise for testing and writing
... We could also seek contributions from other companies
... Does anyone have ideas on how to move this forward?

JoeHumbert: I think we might need to get non-experts to help with testing

Matt_King: An expert might be required to develop new tests

JoeHumbert: Not everyone needs to be an expert, but we could get a pool of testers from things like universities

Matt_King: I think that's a good idea

rob_fentress: I think this whole project could be useful in training people on how to test

JoeHumbert: we could potentially work with the IAAP to see if they would make this part of certification or continuing education credits

Matt_King: If we use IAAP certified testers, we could assume a base level of knowledge

pull requests

rob_fentress: there were 4 tickets that I filed about interaction mode tests being presented to VO users. I think all of them can be fixed by alternating the tests.csv file. So I made 1 commit which should close 4 issues.
... in my commit message, I followed the "closes #x" pattern

Matt_King: I would probably re-title the PR title to describe the changes
... is this all for checkbox?

rob_fentress: yes

Matt_King: general pattern for PR titles <what is being changed (checbox tests)> <what you fixed (don't show interaction tests to VO users>
... did you change the applies_to column?

rob_fentress: yes

Matt_King: so you added 6 rows to the file and you changed 6 rows?

rob_fentress: only two rows

Matt_King: got it
... sounds like you are on track here. Michael, can you review?

michael_fairchild: yep

Matt_King: go ahead and merge if you are happy

michael_fairchild: I have a few pull requests in

Matt_King: I can review the textarea PR. I might need to pull in Val to help.

publishing reports

Matt_King: we have several tests with conflicts. We should talk about resolving these conflicts.
... we could set up a side meeting between Jon and Hadi to get this started

JoeHumbert: I have a conflict with you, Jon.

rob_fentress: there is also an issue were VO+Chrome would auto-read everything after something was auto focused in the menubar example

Matt_King: here is how I imagined we would address all of the conflicts: in the test runner, when you view the results, there is a button for showing you what the conflicts are. This opens a dialog, where you can create a github issue.
... we should document our conclusions on the conflicts in these issues

<JoeHumbert> https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/issues/285

<JoeHumbert> Jon I just dumped the link

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