<scribe> scribe: michael_fairchild
(Introductions)
Matt_King: Rob, I saw that you were working on fixing some issues
rob_fentress: Yes, I created a PR.
Matt_King: My goal is to find
more people to work on the project full time or close to full
time
... because there is too much work to be done for just
volunteers
... at the normal w3c volunteer hours, this project would
probably take 20 years to complete
(discussion of assistive technologies that we are testing)
Matt_King: (rough numbers of amount of work to finish the project)
rob_fentress: is there a scientific study on usage of screen readers?
Matt_King: That could inform this
project, but I'd like to focus a small sub set at first
... we need real investment to meet the goal. I'm working on
getting funding from Facebook to move this forward.
... We have been partnering with Bocoup for the engineering
aspect
... I would like to partner with Accessibility companies like
TPG and Deque. They could contribute expertise for testing and
writing
... We could also seek contributions from other companies
... Does anyone have ideas on how to move this forward?
JoeHumbert: I think we might need to get non-experts to help with testing
Matt_King: An expert might be required to develop new tests
JoeHumbert: Not everyone needs to be an expert, but we could get a pool of testers from things like universities
Matt_King: I think that's a good idea
rob_fentress: I think this whole project could be useful in training people on how to test
JoeHumbert: we could potentially work with the IAAP to see if they would make this part of certification or continuing education credits
Matt_King: If we use IAAP certified testers, we could assume a base level of knowledge
rob_fentress: there were 4
tickets that I filed about interaction mode tests being
presented to VO users. I think all of them can be fixed by
alternating the tests.csv file. So I made 1 commit which should
close 4 issues.
... in my commit message, I followed the "closes #x"
pattern
Matt_King: I would probably
re-title the PR title to describe the changes
... is this all for checkbox?
rob_fentress: yes
Matt_King: general pattern for PR
titles <what is being changed (checbox tests)> <what
you fixed (don't show interaction tests to VO users>
... did you change the applies_to column?
rob_fentress: yes
Matt_King: so you added 6 rows to the file and you changed 6 rows?
rob_fentress: only two rows
Matt_King: got it
... sounds like you are on track here. Michael, can you
review?
michael_fairchild: yep
Matt_King: go ahead and merge if you are happy
michael_fairchild: I have a few pull requests in
Matt_King: I can review the textarea PR. I might need to pull in Val to help.
Matt_King: we have several tests
with conflicts. We should talk about resolving these
conflicts.
... we could set up a side meeting between Jon and Hadi to get
this started
JoeHumbert: I have a conflict with you, Jon.
rob_fentress: there is also an issue were VO+Chrome would auto-read everything after something was auto focused in the menubar example
Matt_King: here is how I imagined
we would address all of the conflicts: in the test runner, when
you view the results, there is a button for showing you what
the conflicts are. This opens a dialog, where you can create a
github issue.
... we should document our conclusions on the conflicts in
these issues
<JoeHumbert> https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/issues/285
<JoeHumbert> Jon I just dumped the link
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