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DPVCG Call 08-JUL-2020

08 Jul 2020

Agenda

Attendees

Present
Georg, beatriz, PaulKnowles, MarkLizar
Regrets
Chair
harsh
Scribe
harsh

Contents


approve minutes from last meeting

RESOLUTION: no objections

deliverables and timeline

see email: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dpvcg/2020Jun/0015.html

<scribe> scribe: harsh

<scribe> ACTION: harsh to create page for new participants and contributors

<trackbot> Created ACTION-144 - Create page for new participants and contributors [on Harshvardhan J. Pandit - due 2020-07-15].

georg: we need more active partipants

beatriz: we could have a dedicated meeting for adding new concepts to DPV and the meeting would be focused on this work only

harsh: we use the spreadsheet we have for the DPV can be extended with additional sheet for 'proposed', we add concepts ready for inclusion from the mailing list and resolve them in the meeting

<scribe> ACTION: harsh to add proposed tab to the spreadsheet for concepts

<trackbot> Created ACTION-145 - Add proposed tab to the spreadsheet for concepts [on Harshvardhan J. Pandit - due 2020-07-15].

<scribe> ACTION: harsh to organise DPV concepts update meeting

<trackbot> Created ACTION-146 - Organise dpv concepts update meeting [on Harshvardhan J. Pandit - due 2020-07-15].

harsh: we should list use-cases, we have some on the Wiki - we should extend that section

Georg: we should categorise use-cases and then list/expand them; then we advertise for adding use-cases

harsh: we can use Github for issues as it provides a wider audience

adding concepts to DPV

harsh: we have had concepts suggested by Signatu on the mailing list

regarding source of data: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dpvcg/2020Jul/0001.html

Georg: source is direct point of collection, origin is the origin/first point.

harsh: where to define source? To me, this is similar to storage

RESOLUTION: source to be added to Technical measures module

Georg: how to express sensitive categories of data?

harsh: subclass or instantiate them as original class + special/sensitive category

regarding: purpose of data https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dpvcg/2020Jul/0000.html

Georg: from the discussion on the mailing list - harsh raised a comment that the phrase does not constitute purpose as defined by law, but the vendors/clients use these words
... It would be useful for everyone to have these (similar) categories

Analytics: on its own is not a purpose, but when expanded can be e.g. Analytics for website user analysis

Agreement on this interpretation

Discussing: advertising

Georg: Advertisement usually means marketing, and is a bucket for all technologies

harsh: Okay, as long we declare that adversiting by itself does not mean it includes profiling, personalisation, etc. - these needs to be declared additionally.

RESOLUTION: Add advertising as a purpose to DPV

Discussion: Cloud infrastructure and traffic distribution

harsh: I think service provision covers it

Georg: laws specify declaration but not level of details, so this could be necessary

Discussion: Document consent

harsh: This relates to a generic purpose about information collection for legal obligation
... How do we specify legal obligation as a purpose? Do we add 'legal obligation' as a purpose?
... we can ask / open thread on mailing list about this to clarify this

Georg: in Signatu, we list the purpose as 'document consent' and the legal basis 'legal obligation'

Discussing: Customer Management

Georg: this is about lifecycle of customers (as explained in email)

harsh: we have an existing purpose dpv:ImproveInternalCRMProcesses - so do we need a CRM purpose?

RESOLUTION: We add Customer Relationship Management as purpose

Discussing: Marketing

harsh: We should add Marketing. And we should relate it to Advertisement by saying Advertising is subset of Marketing

Georg: we would need to revisit this as and when ePrivacy 'redefines' Marketing

GA4GH status

Mark: are there any updates/discussions on GA4GH?

harsh: no, we had a meeting - which is on mailing list. Nothing other than that.

Mark: What is covered by DPV in terms of purpose and context and what is covered by GA4GH?

harsh: suggest taking that up on the mailing list

purpose of data https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dpvcg/2020Jul/0000.html

Georg: Payment is not included in DPV
... Stripe and other vendors bundle purposes together e.g. purpose with fraud detection

harsh: does Payment come under Service Provision? Is this always the case?

Georg: not necessarily

harsh: if not Service provision - then where should be list it? Also, how does this relate to Banking terminology e.g. transactions

Georg: agreed, we should clarify this

Discussing: Personalisation depends on/is enabled by profiling

harsh: we have profiling as processing category based on GDPR A4.4

Discussing: Survey

harsh: by itself, it is a collection method

Georg: yes, how do we specify collection methods?

ISSUE: How to represent collection method of personal data?

<trackbot> Created ISSUE-39 - How to represent collection method of personal data?. Please complete additional details at <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/issues/39/edit>.

Next meeting in two weeks: Wed-22 14:00 CEST / 13:00 Dublin time

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: harsh to add proposed tab to the spreadsheet for concepts
[NEW] ACTION: harsh to create page for new participants and contributors
[NEW] ACTION: harsh to organise DPV concepts update meeting
 

Summary of Resolutions

  1. no objections
  2. source to be added to Technical measures module
  3. Add advertising as a purpose to DPV
  4. We add Customer Relationship Management as purpose
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