Meeting minutes
1 minute update on EPUB 3 WG Charter
tzviya: First item is Ralph's update on the EPUB3 WG charter
Ralph: Once the charter is
complete from the community's perspective, the Director will review
and then send to the AC
… the Director has delegated that responsibility to
W3M, and W3M gives themselves 2 weeks once the community approves
the charter
… we are in the review period now
… and we hope it'll be less than 2 weeks
… for anyone who hasn't been watching GitHub, there
was a tweak to the ISO status that Judy Brewer requested
… to clarify our expectations regarding EU
… that's where we are
<Avneesh> It was about EU not ISO: just for clarification
dauwhe: I expected internal review, since we got internal feedback!
Planning summer community webinar with focus on date and logistics
tzviya: This is a short
meeting today, because there is a DPUB summit presentation on
Audiobooks today
… presented by NNELS
<Ralph> Publishing @ W3C Summer Webinar
tzviya: next topic is the
summer webinar
… I want to talk about logistics today
… specific date
… who will be speaking
… communications, who are we targeting
… for dates, we spoke of July
… middle of July was suggested
… shall we just pick a date?
… Karen isn't here today and I did want to check with
her first
Ralph: Should we delegate to wendyreid, tzviya and Karen for a date
tzviya: Should we have a session for the US/Europe time zone and then one for Asia/AUNZ?
<Bill_Kasdorf> +1 for doing it twice
George: It's going to be a webinar, people can just submit questions, would the content be different?
tzviya: It just occurred to me that for the AC we pre-recorded the session, then did a live Q&A
<mateus> +1 for recording, let people engage asynchronously
tzviya: could we do something like that
ivan: doing it the way the
AC did was really good for participants
… it's a significant amount of work in advance
… George said webinar, I would be more in favour of
using zoom in the way we do now
… for the AC we had over 100 people, and zoom was fine
<Bill_Kasdorf> +1 to recording, followed by two interactive Zoom sessions
ivan: but asking questions
with voice and video gives a different feel to the presentation vs
someone collecting the questions online and filtering them
… I don't know how many we expect
… but I think we can do it this way
tzviya: When I've done webinars with DAISY, someone collects the questions and reads them out, but they have a lot of viewers
ivan: DPUB summit, they have done that as well, but it feels unnatural
Avneesh: Just wanted to
comment on the AC, the results weren't optimal, the synchronization
was good, but the participation wasn't good
… the immediacy of questions disappears
… we can play the recording, then answer questions,
and anyone who is unable to attend can watch at their leisure
Ralph: +1 to Avneesh, the
goals of the AC and this are different
… the experience for participants was different, less
spontaneity
… a webinar we record live is sufficient
jeff_: If we can pivot from
logistics to content
… agenda looks good to me
… overview of goals, there's a lot in there
… two things we think are important to call out
… the business value of the work
… avoid starting with detailed spec talk
… commitment to backwards compatibility
… just wanted to call those out
tzviya: Please add those
comments to the document, thanks
… just want to clear these logistics out to get
invitations
liisamk: I like the idea of
recording it and having it ready
… does it make sense to put out the recording, wait a
week, then do discussion/Q&A
tzviya: That's what I was
suggesting
… but Avneesh and Ralph disagreed, based on the
experience with the AC meeting
… I'm on the fence, I like the idea of letting people
watch on their own time, but I also agree we want that discussion
… in previous webinars, we allotted 15 mins for
Q&A, we can answer them in writing later
<tzviya> Bill_Kasdorf
Bill_Kasdorf: I'm ok with
either method
… I was really impressed with the AC meeting strategy
… one way to eliminate Avneesh's criticism is maybe to
have a method to collect questions from watchers as they watch it
tzviya: They had that for the AC meeting
Ralph: we invited questions in advance and got very few
dauwhe: I agree with
Avneesh, tzviya, wendyreid and I did a webinar, we took half the time
for presentation and half for questions, it worked really well
… we're inundated with videos right now
… the AC presentations were a lot, and I can read them
a lot faster than I can watch
… considering the amount of work required for this, it
doesn't have the benefits we want
jeff__: One of the popular
things in the AC meeting that might apply, the popularity of captions
and translations
… we could do it live but it's a lot harder
… I don't know if we need to translate to every
language, but it might be sensible
<Zakim> Ralph, you wanted to comment on captioning
tzviya: I was going to mention the captioning, we'd like to do this live, but we should discuss if we can do live captioning, and in how many languages
Ralph: Same question, is
there a consensus to ask for funding for captions/simultaneous
interpretation
… we should find a sponsors
George: The captioning for hearing impaired vs simultaneous captioning, it's easy when prerecorded but there is a cost
tzviya: Are we interesting in looking for funding for captioning
<wendyreid> +1
dauwhe: What kind of cost is it?
<Ralph> +1 to ask for a captioning sponsor
<tzviya> +1 to captioning
<Bill_Kasdorf> +1
<liisamk> +1
tzviya: Do we have consensus? Yes
Ralph: We have a mandate that we post videos with captions
tzviya: That's WCAG :)
<George> +1
Bill_Kasdorf: One way to fund it would be for someone to donate the captioning, like a company who does it for promotion
jeff__: The obvious question
is can the W3C provide the funds
… where do we draw the line, there's lots of meetings
… if we were able to get this mostly sponsored, and
ask the W3C cover the remainder
<Ralph> [Zoom does not have automated captioning, however other systems exist that do]
jeff__: helps with other groups asking as well
tzviya: Hopefully Bill will come back with a sponsor
<Bill_Kasdorf> My suggestions were NCAM or 3Play Media
tzviya: in the last few minutes, who will be speaking?
liisamk: *volunteers*
tzviya: Me, Cristina, Liisa, and Wendy
George: If you need me let me know
Daihei: I can help with Asia/Japan
tzviya: Mateus, representation from CG?
mateus: Yes!
tzviya: Expect to see some updates! We'll clean this up
<Avneesh> +1 to have one panelist from Japan
tzviya: AOB?