<scribe> scribe: michael_fairchild
<siri> how to see shared screen
Matt_King: I could not get
combobox ready for the pilot
... I changed the title to let people know not to test it
... Once we start a cycle, we can not change the test
plan
... good news: I feel great about both checkbox and
menubar
... there are now 40 tests for menubar, because I made a
version for every test that applies to VO
... I also hacked the harness so that it does not mention
anything about mode for VO tests
... I also made a lot of grammar and editorial changes
<siri> How to see the screen?
<siri> Can you send me link?
https://bluejeans.com/678068494
(Discussion about sharing screen)
(discussion about recording the demo - we were unable to record, but we do have instructions that can be shared)
<zcorpan> https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/issues/162
zcorpan: first step: accept
invite to the GitHub team
... second step, go to the site and click sign in with
github
... next step, is to go to settings and select the AT that you
use, then save.
... initially, nothing is selected
... there will be no responsive after clicking save, but it
works. this is a known bug.
... next, navigate to the test queue page
... there will be a table with test cycles. There is only once
cycle called 'test pilot'
... click 'open test cycle'
... next, assign yourself to the tests
... since we removed combobox, we might want to revisit
assignments
... At the moment, we need to use the admin interface to assign
more then two people. Up to two people can self-assign.
... step 8 is to click the link to the test plan. It becomes a
link after you are assigned.
... when you click that, the first test for the test plan will
open
... now, follow the instructions for the test. All fields are
required.
... there is a button 'open test page'.
Matt_King: step 1 is always to
ensure that your screen reader is in its default settings
... step 2, is to open the test page. If there is a setup
script that runs, step 2 will describe this.
... for example, a specific element might be focused on page
load
... If you are using NVDA or JAWS, step 3 will tell you which
mode you need to be in.
... if you are using VO, we do not include instructions for
mode
Rob-fentress: Should we include instructions in step 1 to remove plugins from the browser/AT?
michael_fairchild: yes, I think that's a good idea.
zcorpan: good idea, but I don't think we can make that change for the pilot tests
Matt_King: we should create an issue for that
(all) TamperMonkey (unsure of spelling) is an example, or a landmark extension which provides keyboard functionality to jump between landmarks, or even password managers which inject functionality into forms
siri: when should we raise an issue when running a test?
Matt_King: if there is a failing test, don't raise an issue. But if there is a problem with the test, or you don't understand the test, or you can't complete a test, raise an issue.
zcorpan: assuming you have followed the instructions, you fill out the results.
Matt_King: There are certain ways
to copy screen reader output in some screen readers
... I think it is ctrl+option+shift+c to copy in VO, and in
jaws it is insert+space,h in JAWS
michael_fairchild: I think it is preferable to use screen reader commands to copy actual output, otherwise manually type what you heard.
zcorpan: After filling in all
fields, there is a button 'submit results'. If you missed
something, you will get an error.
... after submitted you will get a success screen
... and you can move on to the next test in the plan
... You can navigate to the previous test, skip a test, and
there are 3 buttons to raise an issue, redo a test, and (missed
the last button name)
... when you raise an issue, you are prompted to describe your
issue/question. This will help you create a github issue.
... redo test will reset the test results
... save and close will take you back to the list of test
plans
siri: when I entered all the required fields, but when I say submit issue, I got an error saying that I can not continue.
spectranaut: thank you for reporting that issue, we did get that issue fixed
siri: and I can save and close at any time?
zcorpan: yes
Matt_King: what if you have partial data?
spectranaut: we do not have partial saving at the moment. We will soon, but not for the pilot tests
<Jemma> what is the deadline to finish the testing?
zcorpan: deadline is June 2
<zcorpan> http://aria-at.w3.org/
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