W3C

- DRAFT -

Publishing Business Group

12 May 2020

Attendees

Present
jyoshii, dauwhe, liisamk, ShinyaTakami, Daihei, wendyreid, jkamata, julieblair, Makoto
Regrets
Chair
Daihei
Scribe
liisamk

Contents


Introductions

Daihei: Melanie, Michelle and Mark are new to the call
... all from legible media

<Daihei> W3C IRC: http://irc.w3.org/ (IRC channel #pbg)

EDRLab CTO Laurent's video of Thorium demo

Daihei: Link to Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tN8rYKOBrE

scribe: Presentation slides: https://www.edrlab.org/public/slides/2020/Audiobooks-W3C-PBG.pdf
... Thorium Reader 1.3 (https://www.edrlab.org/software/thorium-reader/)
... Thorium has accessibility, has great interest in the Japanese market
... lots of downloads
... it is also built for the graphic novel and manga titles
... please take a look at the video and slides and let us know if you have thoughts

Field Guide to Fixed Layout for Ebooks

Dave: in a distant galaxy far away...
... BISG decided to collect info about fixed layout to provide advice
... about what it was good for and how to build it
... it was meant to be a self-contained introduction
... for technical people at smaller publishers and managers at all sized publishers
... to know pitfalls of making these
... collective effort and got good info from the RS folks

<scribe> ...done by BISG, so has a focus on the US

UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: BISG is reviewing all of their publications and are looking to see if they are all still relevant
... sense that FXL hasn't changed much and think the doc may be useful
... with some updates and maybe would be helpful to update for the rest of the world

Brian: haven't been able to keep everything up to date so easily
... maybe this is something we should update in some sort of way
... would be good to update and we'll figure out how to get the work done

<dauwhe> qq+

Makoto: wondering if the EBPAJ guide can be referenced

<Makoto> http://ebpaj.jp/counsel/guide

<Makoto> +q

Dave: want to see how they compare

<Zakim> dauwhe, you wanted to react to a previous speaker

<wendyreid> scribe+

<wendyreid> liisamk: I wanted to ask, does BISG want us to gather feedback?

<wendyreid> Brian: No, I just wanted to raise it to the group

<wendyreid> ... we're looking at updating a number of documents, this one included

<Makoto> -q

scribe+

Wendy: Fixed layout accessibility is not addressed and would be interesting

EPUB3 WG Charter

Daihei: included some messages from Cristina about comments on the charter
... will be discussed in github
... any comments?

EPUB Survey Results

Daihei: Wendy and Mateus put together slides and a blog post

<wendyreid> liisamk: The only thing I wanted to add is that the PBG cochairs wanted to do an executive level explainer of the deck

<wendyreid> ... give some details of the deck, but have a shorter version to pass onto execs

Wendy: results were interesting, 80+ questions and over 250 answers
... there was a lot of trade, but some academic and professional publishers
... some reading system folks
... EPUB3 is strong, people are using it and many considering
... accessibility is on people's minds and about half have done something and the
... other half are thinking about it
... lots of requests for things that in the websphere
... javascript, better image support, better fxl support
... reading system side want more information and want to do better
... rs folks want to do testing and that has been applied to the charter

Dave: people still want more information on how things work or should work

<wendyreid> liisamk: To add to Dave, early on we saw that there is a role to be filled in terms of getting information out to the community

<wendyreid> ... there were a lot of assumptions about EPUB

<wendyreid> ... surprising considering usage

<wendyreid> ... but it's a matter of education

EPUB RS Bug Github Repo

Daihei: please give support and issues

<Makoto> +q
...https: //github.com/w3c/epub-rs-bugs

Makoto: wondering if this is meant to work for all reading systems?

Liisa: yes

ShinyaTakami: will relate to japanese companies and want to add comments for the browsers

EU Standardization Process

Daihei: was explained by Cristina at the last call
... sent you her comments to read

<Makoto> +q

Daihei: the process is related to the EU accessibility act that requires all publications
... to comply with defined requirements by 2025
... W3C Avneesh, George, Judy Bruer and others have met with the EU commission
... Cristina and Luc Audrain have also participated
... EU have been looking for standards and the accessibility spec has been submitted to ISO
... the spec should be developed in an open way by stakeholders
... first step is for EPUB accessibility
... work is moving quickly
... EU commission to have mandate by next June
... Cristina wants people to get in touch if there are comments or questions

Makoto: what does Cristina mean by ???

Daihei: will get this clarified

Makoto: is she trying to get it downgraded?

Wendy: it looks like she meant the technical standard

Makoto: who is doing the standardization?

<wendyreid> https://www.etsi.org/

Makoto: ETSI often implements what EU needs

Daihei: please write to Cristina and we can clarify and share the message back
... anything else?
... next meeting is May 26th in the NA/Europe time

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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