W3C

– DRAFT –
WAI Curricula Task Force Meeting

05 May 2020

Attendees

Present
Daniel, eoncins, Howard, shadi_
Regrets
-
Chair
Daniel
Scribe
eoncins

Meeting minutes

Invitation draft

<shadi_> https://‌www.w3.org/‌WAI/‌EO/‌wiki/‌WAI_Curricula/‌WAI_Curricula_TF/‌Invitation

Daniel: Shadi sent a template with the invitation. Do we agree with the text? It is an invitation that can be adapted according to the people that you are approaching.

Daniel: We will all start approaching people.

Shadi: We tried to de-emphasise the termninology of W3C and make it more open. They can be also active in reviewing providing comments

Shadi: I tried to point out that it is not only for developers. We also need people specialized in curriculum design. So feel free to adapt it.

Shadi: Daniel and me will take care of how to involve them.

Howard: It is beautiful.

Howard: I know plenty of people that could be interested.

<shadi_> Estella: participate in IMPACT project

<shadi_> ...should we send this to other partners

<shadi_> Shadi: yes, please

<shadi_> Estella: difficult time for universities

Shadi: I believe in Ireland the curriculum is being looked at the National Computer Association. They are already working with the introduction curriculum and it might ne interesting for Donald DCU

Shadi: Not Association but National Computer Society

Learning outcomes discussion

<shadi_> https://‌lists.w3.org/‌Archives/‌Public/‌public-wai-curricula/‌2020Apr/‌0015.html

Daniel: In previous meetings we concluded that learning outcomes were a bit generic and had to be more detailed and specific

<Daniel> https://‌deploy-preview-171--wai-curricula.netlify.app/‌curricula/‌developing-accessible-content/

In the master plans changes have not been implemented but are on a draft that I am working on

How to refer to success criteria

Daniel: In the previous draft success criteria were in each learning outcome

Daniel: In this new draft there is no mention to learning outcomes

Daniel: Success criteria are not mentioned

Daniel: I am trying to reference success criteria for each learning outcome instead to have them in single bullets

Daniel: Some success criteria will be repeated because approach different learning outcomes and they will be mentioned in brackets

Howard: I try to introduce success criteria earlier. So I do not see anything wrong with it

HOWARD: Some people who are not familiar might not understand at the beginning but I think is ok

Daniel: We also need to have some reference to what we mean with success criteria. I will add this to the current learning outcomes

<shadi_> https://‌www.w3.org/‌WAI/‌tutorials/‌page-structure/

Shadi: Having this success criteria earlier on could cause confusion to some people. Another approach could be make these links more easy to process like in the link.

<shadi_> https://‌www.w3.org/‌WAI/‌tutorials/‌page-structure/‌regions/

Shadi: After learning outcomes we could add a specific success criteria. We should step back and see where and how to introduce success criteria

Shadi: There could be many ways to introduce success criteria and we have to know and look into the use cases

Daniel: This course is for developers and reference to success criteria are important but code is more important.

Shadi: I think that the audience is clear. First audience is people developing curricula and second audience is people procuring courses

Shadi: We have to understand how important is this

Howard: I think that it might be a little bit earlier. I introduce success criteria when I have students looking at webpages and see if features are there. Heading/Footers...Then is when WCAG are needed.

Howard: It might be a little earlier to introduce them already in the learning outcomes

Shadi: These entire curriculum is for people that already had a first introduction and they have already gone with the success criteria

Howards: I am ok with both options

Daniel: This is going to be used for people building courses and procuring courses.

Shadi: I understood too early as too up

Howard: Maybe in teaching ideas you might have a topic or an exercise to link success criteria

+1 to Howard

Howard: I have an exercise where people look at a page and identify the success criteria

Shadi: On the module level it might be better with no success criteria

Shadi: We could say success criteria related criteria related to this module

Shadi: We could say success criteria related related to this module

Daniel: We can cover this also in teaching ideas as Howard does

Shadi: We have to understand what does this module going to teach to introduce. Then we could have too much repetition. In fact, we want to relate success criteria with specific techniques

Next steps

Daniel: We definitely need to go back to the learning outcomes in the future.

Daniel: Would you be able to complete a survey if we open it tomorrow EOB and complete it next Monday?

Howard: Should work for me.

Estella: For me also

Daniel: There are two topics that need to be discussed and I can send you an email.

Daniel: Any comments?

Not for me

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Diagnostics

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Succeeded: s/Learning outcomes are a bit generic and have to be more detailed and specific/In previous meetings we concluded that learning outcomes were a bit generic and had to be more detailed and specific/

Failed: s/In the master plans changes have not been implemented but are on a draft that I am working on;/Live draft with current status of learning outcomess/

Failed: s/outcomess/outcomes/

Succeeded: s/success criterias/success criteria/

Maybe present: Estella, Howards, Shadi