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Update on connectivities

Dirk: There's a new W3C slack channel you can sign up for; forwarded the email to the group list, but this is public info, can invite others.
... The W3C is also exploring using Zoom as an alternative to WebEx, see link above. Given our connection issues, might be worth trying out.

Amelia: We could ask Chris to set us up with a Zoom meeting to see if it works better than WebEx.

Dirk: Slightly different issue: we've had trouble getting everyone on at the same time. Maybe partly with summer time shift. But do ask if there's a need for a different time.

Work plan for completing SVG 2

<krit> ScribeNick: krit

AmeliaBR: when we talked 4 weeks ago, main focus was on getting more contributors... especially on testing. Targets would be implementers, especially browser implementers. Idea was to sign up a special meeting or time where ppl could call in for virtual work sessions. Start would be to assign tasks for the test suite.
... More than 1.5 years ago I went through each chapters and change logs to see what needs testing. Will get back with the list. Hopefully this month.

krit: an idea how to reach out to browser implementers?

AmeliaBR: Myles was on the call and supportive. Unsure how to get others on the call.

krit: let me take the task to contact google and Mozilla folks.

Tavmjong: we get comments on issues.

AmeliaBR: Limited way to reach out to ppl in private.

krit: Why reach out in private?

AmeliaBR: To ask if they would be interested in contributing to tests, specs...
... there are ppl who have the skills and interest. We ned to get that organised.

krit: Would it help to publicly ask on www-svg?

AmeliaBR: probably. We could always link to the archived email for questions in private

nzimmermann: or having a crowd funding compain.

AmeliaBR: Or get some funding in general

krit: Will follow up with plh
... It seems like many ppl do not even have the time to look into SVG2. Just an incorrect observation?

AmeliaBR: certainly the case for me
... lower on priority if there are no comments or contributions

Tavmjong: busy with InkScape

nzimmermann: similar situation

AmeliaBR: Would it be helpful to set a side a virtual editing session on the calendar?

Tavmjong: might be helpful after 9PM CET

krit: sadly not much time till June from my side.

nzimmermann: principally yes. I'd prefer regular working hours. Early in the morning or late at night :)
... but not in the short term
... If there is a proposal for a time I'd decide case by case

AmeliaBR: Ok, lets start with an email to ww-svg to see who else is interested.

krit: would you concentrate on testing or spec editing?

AmeliaBR: seems most likely to get testing first

<AmeliaBR> https://github.com/w3c/svgwg/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3A%22Test+suite%22

nzimmermann: would we have a public list of specs sections that lack testing. Then we could ask ppl who are NOT familiar with spec editing to look at it and write tests for it.

<AmeliaBR> https://github.com/w3c/svgwg/issues/487

AmeliaBR: Started with a master issue

nzimmermann: perfect. We need a public relation compain
... ... on Twitter that SVG2 needs your help

AmeliaBR: It would definitely help to have a core group of ppl, (For instance on regular calls), to work on tests and write a guidance page how to write a a good SVG test based on WPT
... 1. look up what needs to get tested 2. here is how you can do it
... we want to do it in steps. Especially get attention in an organised way
... Lets follow up with the few of us at the end of the month.

<AmeliaBR> https://web-platform-tests.org/

AmeliaBR: We should all read up on things and come with our own thoughts and questions. We should follow up with ppl who just recently created tests to know what needs to get included into posts and tutorials for other contributors.

krit: Just a reminder to think about switching from a "stable" recommendation to a living standard.

AmeliaBR: We still need to clean up the spec. This work is the same.
... No features are up for the spec anyway and if they may get into own models (we need to decide)

nzimmermann: what are the general feelings of WG members? Haven't thought about it much.

AmeliaBR: for the immediate future we need to make the spec better and align more to browser implementation. To what happens after wards? In a module approach, all implementers are supposed to match the living standard and keep up to data with it as opposed to a fixed spec that can get implemented by other parties.
... The modular approach might make sections look options. But maybe this is appropriate. I don't know.

krit: My point of view, neither fixes the lack of contributions.

AmeliaBR: We haven't been meanting in calls for some times. We didn't review new issues and some don't have any comments at all. Please review the issues and comment or at least tag them.
... we can mentioned the community group but nothing happened in it either.

krit: Good call. Look at issues and provide feedback.
... seems like we all have work for the next call to do

<nzimmermann> AmeliaBR: I had fun with a codepen from you btw

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