W3C

Web Payments Working Group

05 Mar 2020

Attendees

Present
Ian Jacobs (W3C), Gerhard Oosthuizen (Entersekt), Fawad Nisar (Discover), Clinton Allen (American Express), Florent Lambert (Lyra), Jonathan Grossar (Mastercard), Lauren Helt (American Express), Adrian Hope-Bailie (Coil), Justin Toupin (Google), Nick Telford-Reed, Yun Cho (Airbnb), Alex Liu (Airbnb), David Benoit, Jonathan Vokes (FIS Global), Chris Dee (FIS Global), Andrey Bannikov (Facebook)
Chair
Nick Telford-Reed
Scribe
Ian

Contents


-> https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/Agenda-20200305 Agenda

FTF update

NickTR: Lots of organizations have travel restrictions

<alex_liu> alex_liu present+

NickTR: Any updates from people here?

<rouslan> present_

<nicktr> ian: there are still 23 registered

<nicktr> ...and 32 who cannot attend

NickTR: Adrian and Ian and I have been discussing that idea

jonathan: Is the idea to have combination of FTF and virtual?

NickTR: Personally I continue to travel but I am just one person.
... Thanks Airbnb for their continued support!!

--- another option is a variant where we have some satellite meetings

--- another option is entirely virtual

Ian: W3C AC meeting has been rendered virtual

<jonathan_> what about the web security interest group?

Ian: I think we should focus on making it a remote meeting first

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* 30 Mar (3-7 GMT / 8am-10am PST):

- Payment Request and Payment Handlers

* 31 Mar (same times)

- SRC

* 1 Apr (same times) - 1.5 hours on authentication updates (e.g., from the recent WebAuthn FTF)

- 30 mins on open banking

* 2 Apr (one hour only)

- 30 mins on brainstorming re: adoption

- 30 mins objectives and next steps

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* 30 Mar (3-7 GMT / 8am-10am PST):

- Payment Request and Payment Handlers

* 31 Mar (same times)

- SRC

* 1 Apr (same times) - 1.5 hours on authentication updates (e.g., from the recent WebAuthn FTF)

- 30 mins on open banking

* 2 Apr (one hour only)

- 30 mins on brainstorming re: adoption

- 30 mins objectives and next steps

<AdrianHB> I support the schedule but would then attend remotely

PROPOSED: We make this a remote-first meeting

<rouslan> +1

<jtoupin> +1

<Fawad> +1

Lauren: +1

<jv> +1 (Worldpay can attend dublin if needed)

<AdrianHB> +1

<benoit> +0

RESOLUTION: We will make the meeting remote-first

IJ: Who would still be interested in attending from Dublin?

<benoit> +1

(benoit +1 here is for "from Dublin")

scribe: what does "meeting in hubs" mean in practice?

IJ: I had understood the small groups idea to be "self-organizing"
... we are also interested in the code-a-thon
... setting aside some hours for that
... they would likely be small groups

PROPOSED: Skeleton schedule is 8-10am PDT on 30 March through 2 April

<nicktr> +1 from me

(That would not include the code-a-thon part)

<AdrianHB> +1 (noting this will be a challenge for anyone east of me...)

(The proposal is for 3-5pm UTC)

NickTR: Whole-hearted thanks to Airbnb!!!
... we are sad to not be meeting FTF
... maybe code-a-thon can take place before TPAC

-> https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/FTF-Mar2020#ideas-for-projects

<nicktr> ian: please give us your thoughts on how to organise the remote meeting

<nicktr> +1000 from NTR

DST change

The meetings the week of 16 will be one hour sooner for some people

scribe: I will send out clear notes on that

Skip the Sheet Behavior in Chrome

<jtoupin> https://bit.ly/PaymentRequestSkipTheSheet

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[B1] request.show() is triggered by a user gesture

[B3] Merchant requests more than one payment methods

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scribe: that led to the change
... I note that payment handlers opt into delegation
... the logic behind the change is the following:

IJ: If two payment handlers support full delegation, there is no skipping?

Justin: Correct.

IJ: What about an Add Card payment method in the SRC scenario?
... would you see the Add Card payment handler if it doesn't do delegation?

Justin: Potentially yes, if it's the same PMI

rouslan: Good question about Add Card payment handler

Justin: I think the edge case IanJ ran into was S4

[IJ thanks Chrome folks for writing this up!]

Chris: What would the UX be?

Justin: In that case we would show the sheet (as selector)
... We are likely to adapt UX in payment handler selector use case.

IJ: Payment handler launch automation:

a) Skip-the-sheet

b) Preferred payment handler

IJ: Is it worth considering (b) in this documentation?:
... so the question is what's the scope of preferred?

Justin: I think that's what I have in mind as well
... especially where the split differs from one handler to another
... what about making shipping address available to handlers?

Next meeting

19 March

NickTR: Please do keep those times in your diary for remote discussion!

<AdrianHB> +1000

<nicktr> thank you Justin

<scribe> ACTION: NickTR to review Justin's skip-the-sheet documentation

<nicktr> Nick volunteers to review

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: NickTR to review Justin's skip-the-sheet documentation
 

Summary of Resolutions

  1. We will make the meeting remote-first
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