<scribe> scribe: michael_fairchild
Matt: What's the status of the checkbox plan? Has that been reviewed yet?
Michael: I did a first pass and made some changes
(discussion on timeline and process)
Matt: for the first 3, we should
all review all 3 test plans
... is the checkbox plan finished for MacOS?
Michael: no
... I can take that on, when does it need to be done?
Val: I think we just need to add
commands for VO on MacOS
... does VO have both reading and interactions modes?
Matt: sort of, but I don't think we need any reading mode tests for checkboxes
(discussion of testing quick nav with signle letter nav key, which may be turned off in VO by default)
Michael: I'll try to get VO commands set up by the end of the weekend
Val: how about the menubar tests?
Jon: hopefully by the end of the day, we will have some updated test files
<spectranaut> michael_fairchild: see the link to the test plan here for easier reviewing, and investigate where tests of VoiceOver with quicknav on should be added to the tests of navigating in reading mode
<spectranaut> michael_fairchild: https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/issues/52
Thanks @spectranaut
Jon: (provided an overview of
recent changes)
... if there are multiple commands to get the same element,
should we test all of them or just some of them (OR vs AND)
Matt: it may depend, do you have an example?
Jon: if you are in reading mode, you can use Tab or Down Arrow.
Matt: we want to test each command
<jongund> https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/blob/master/tests/checkbox/navigate-to-checkbox.html
Jon: has a question about the sequence of the commands and associated instructions
<spectranaut> here is the same test rendered: https://w3c.github.io/aria-at/tests/checkbox/navigate-to-checkbox.html
Michael: concern about the test instructions. Not clear that the tester should reset virtual focus to the top of the page for each command
Matt: the test script can also help to set up the focus location where that is important
Michael: how will we wire up the customized setup JS with the csv file
Matt: there could be a column in the csv that describes what the set up script should do. After the tests are generated, those comments need to be implemented
(discussion of how complex these scripts might be)
val: how is combobox coming along?
Matt: I'm converting it to the
CSV
... My goal is to finish writing them this afternoon
Jon: In menubar, there are
several ways to navigate to several different roles within the
menubar. How should we write that?
... I think these are 4 separate tests: navigate to menu bar,
open the menu bar, navigate to something within the menu bar,
etc
Val: please open a new issue if
you find out that we need to change the test design
... goal for wed - for all of the tests that are in progress,
everyone read through all of the tests so that we can can have
a discussion on the language used in the tests
<spectranaut> test plan review page: https://w3c.github.io/aria-at/review-test-plans/
<spectranaut> related to issue: https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/issues/37
Matt: might be good to have a filter for different ATs
Michael: would also be good to describe what the set up script should do for each test
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