<scribe> scribenick: ted
<scribe> Scribe: Ted
https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/61259/Marchf2f/
Ted: CITS and TC204
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Daniel and Glenn reiterate their invitations to host
Peter: Gunnar sent message to the public list and thinks it has potential to align with Ulf's proposal
Daniel: positioning or layer
approach?
... for positioning we have agreement on how the YAML will look
and creating CSV and resulting tree will look like
... doesn't make much sense without Gunnar and Ulf to discuss
today as they were most active in the thread
Glenn: California Consumer Privacy
Act (CCPA, adopted by other states in the US) requires consent for
specific purpose and cannot be used for others that do not
benefit the consumer who provided it
... that prohibits use of data based on our legal review
... we have an employee, friends and family program where
people install our devices to be used in a dogfood
program
... we are discussing updating those terms to include public
good, research and non-commercial uses
... Harjot is advancing that with our legal team. others in
this group can use a similar agreement for being able to
provide data for the graph server
... we are still trying to figure out CCPA which just came into
affect
Ted: as a reminder this project idea came out of our last f2f meeting. we felt having a graph server available exposing real[istic] data in VSS/VSSo and showing how it can answer some real world questions will help promote it
Ted: we want to make sure we can do
so without incurring any legal risk
... solving privacy policy for various data containing personal
identifying information or anonymizing and aggregating is bigger
than automotive/transportation
Ted: Glenn and I discussed how a new
W3C Community Group can be formed to work on more general policy
framework, I would try to get attention and interest from W3C
Privacy Interest Group and others
... the graph project can
serve as a test platform and use cases for consideration
Glenn: we have a privacy expert
on staff, Nicole who gave a presentation
(minutes not public, restricted to W3C Members and Auto group
participants) to this group
earlier
... she is working on policy protocol for aggregation and
anonymization that we could leverage and coordinate with
... we would be happy if that work can go into W3C
... this idea of a separate consent for dogfooding project is
so we are not delayed in being able to open up this graph
server
Ted: Adnan, did you have a chance to bring this up? similar to data from BMW engineers that you guys showed before
Adnan: we potentially could use an endpoint that we have
https://www.w3.org/auto/wg/wiki/Vss_data
Ted: can we request frequency or is this just what you already have in the cloud?
Adnan: this would be from our test fleet and not customer vehicles. I will look at the wiki and get back to you
Glenn: we feel we need to clarify
agreement with our employees since it stipulates R&D and
public good
... it may not cover this particular project. it is more CCPA
instead of GDPR
Adnan: we have our data privacy officers. once we have the scope clearly defined they will look at it
Ted: I encourage people to add additional use cases, review signals needed in case of omisions
https://www.w3.org/auto/charter-2018
VISS@@
Ulf: I think it is too early for others to consider implementing besides our open source one
@@roadmap
https://www.w3.org/auto/wg/wiki/Agenda_Planning
Ted to meet with Ulf and Patrick on features list, come up with estimates
Peter: Adjourned
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