W3C

Automotive Working Group Teleconference

17 Dec 2019

Attendees

Present
Magnus, Gunnar, Ted, Ulf, Harjot
Regrets
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
ted

Contents


Pull Request

#320

some comments were queued up as review comments

Ulf: I already addressed a number of the smaller ones

Gunnar: prefer a group discussion on the more fundamental topics

Ulf: certainly more to discuss but think it is better to merge now and raise those issues

Gunnar: fine with broad strokes and further refinement as subsequent changes

Ted: I agree with your comment Gunnar that subscribe doesn't make as much sense on REST requests. regarding filter returning too much results, there is risk of developer requesting too much in any query interface

Gunnar: I would like to see improvement on decisions on call

Automotive and Transportation Business Group

scope for BG will basically be formalizing VSSo that EURECOM will bring over, Best Practices for apps in-vehicle and several aspects of data handling in the cloud, a joint task force with Spatial Data on the Web Interest Group on additional ontologies - we will have a draft one for routing from OGC public soon, and the graph project

Magnus: depends on the scope of the best practices

Ted: some of the in-vehicle and offboarding best practices will come from a telematics security assurance grant project between US DOT Volpe, Colorado State, MIT, UL and Geotab

Magnus: ITS and their station to station communication is nearby
... looking forward to more details
... my interest area is in-vehicle and toward external endpoint

Gunnar: makes sense to look more widely about the needs in this space
... routing data model makes sense to me more than memory footprint etc for in-vehicle apps

Group dynamic

Magnus: AutoSAR meeting f2f monthly and 5G group every few months
... I feel we have good progress during our f2f meetings and wonder if we should change the frequency

Ted: maybe with a third day - more hands on hackathon than just discussing topics

Ulf: I agree. it is not only working methods, we have had other sorts of problems
... somewhat converging

Gunnar: in github it is possible to enable project management support
... we agreed on prioritizing certain tickets but not formalized
... we can visually see which issues will be discussed on a given day
... I noticed in the kanban board issues and PR are treated the same
... in some cases they are redundant and you do not need a separate ticket

Ulf: it sounds like a good idea, is it easy to get into?

Gunnar: we can use it to manage what will be our group call agenda
... this aligns with Peter's desired organization
... my proposal is to use kanban and try to avoid duplicating issues and pull requests

Ulf: I assume it easy to revert and stop using this tool

Magnus: it looks easy to create one and just tried it
... think repo owner needs to do it

Ted: I can look into it

Magnus: let's try it

https://github.com/w3c/strategy/projects/2 -> W3C strategy funnel

Magnus: you can edit and add columns as you go
... I'm afraid to add blocked column in this group...

Gen2 implementation

Magnus: setup to run as a docker right now, geared to localhost
... it would be nice (hint, hint) to have someone host an instance soon

Ulf: Ted replied he is somewhat prejudiced against docker

Ted: docker are great for quick easy evaluation. I kind of have a pet peeve against running them on a public server, you are dependent on docker image maintainer keeping up with security updates, have to be careful to preserve your custom configuration on image updates, etc.

Magnus: when docker builds image it updates and downloads the dependencies

Gunnar: it is possible to have these tied to underlying OS and auto update
... possible to cron rebuild and restart container but that depends on docker base images
... on the other hand you gain security in being inside a docker container
... docker falling out of fashion somewhat to other containers

Magnus: like which?

Gunnar: podman
... it is learning from mistakes of early docker issues. docker too are keeping up

Ted: happy to host as is Gunnar, I can be persuaded to relax on docker

Magnus: choose golang or docker tool setup

Ulf: agree with that

Magnus: I would be happy for someone to clone repo and try it out, working on my computer but not others

Ulf: I will try

Gunnar: I can too and put on a public IP

https://github.com/MEAE-GOT/W3C_VehicleSignalInterfaceImpl

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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