<scribe> scribenick: dezell

Agenda

Sebastian: next plans
... (reads agenda)
... will have information on eCl@ss next week (Markus Reigl and Christian Block)
... that's next week
... planned joint call with Media and Entertainment IG - postponed for next year.

Kaz: we're getting input for the doodle poll from the WoT participants, and we should ask the MEIG participants about their availability too.

Sebastian: if you haven't please fill in the doodle poll.
... points for the meeting from WoT side and ME side. May provide input to on-going discussions on "eventing" and "streaming data".

Kaz: ME is very interested in frame-by-frame accuracy.
... should make time for advanced use cases.

Sebastian: we should invite them to bring their use cases to the next plug-fest.

WG Charter

<kaz> Proposed WoT WG Charter

<kaz> updated Charter template

Sebastian: there will be a small update to the text based on the updated Charter template.
... see section 5 "Invitation for review..."
... changes to "must be" to "advised"
... please see the pull request.
... AC review voting status - 8 in favor, 1 abstain
... 3 weeks left for voting.
... please let your AC reps know to vote.
... US Thanksgiving (Nov 28) - no US members
... should we have TD call on Friday (Nov 29)?
... Ege volunteered to chair the call, but many people will be absent.
... we will cancel the TD call of Friday, November 29.

<inserted> Sebastian: wondering about other calls on Friday. Maybe there is a security call?

Kaz: the security call is held not on Friday but on Monday.

Future F2F Planning

Sebastian: still looking for good places.

McCool: March 21 - 27 is IETF in Vacouver - would like to avoid that.
... any other week in March is OK.

Sebastian: options include Helsinki, London, Pune.

McCool: if Helsinki we should do it in June.

Sebastian: London and Pune would be in March.
... ICWE is June 9-12 in Helsinki - might be convenient, but it's a long time from home.

Ege: this is more of an academic conference, so people may not come for the whole week.

McCool: it might be something we could coordinate against (like the open day).

Ege: then we much contact the organizers.

McCool: other question is "do we want any joint meetings?"

Ege: ICWE has a WoT track.

Sebastian: we could also organize a "thing-to-thing" group meeting (June - Helsinki).

McCool: Vancouver might be a better option of coordination.
... it would be really good if Mozilla could host this kickoff meeting (March).

Sebastian: so we have two European offers in a row. So we should consider Vancouver, or maybe Asia.

McCool: need to research India visa requirements.
... more in favor of India in 2021. The launch should be near a big airport.
... we also considered Spain (Madrid).
... WRT to Asia, we've been to Japan a couple of times. Fujitsu is in California, so that could also be an option.

Sebastian: Fujitsu is already hosting an event for us in CA.
... so it seems that Helsinki for June seems likely? Still need an option for March.
... Mozilla in San Francisco could be a great option.

<ege> https://www2020.thewebconf.org/

Ege: Web Conference in April, 2020 in Taipei (April 20-24)?

McCool: if we do the April meeting, late June for Helsinki would be better. (July people are on vacation.)

Sebastian: let us know if your company can host - rooms are most expensive. Coffee and Lunch we can organize on our own. Rooms are the important thing.

McCool: a room with desks, a projector, and internet.

Task Force Reports

Sebastian: Marketing reports coordination with W3C (Coralie) started.
... there is a new web page design. The overall W3C design should not have impact on group space.

Ege: in addition to WoT page in Wikipedia, we want thing description page.

<ege> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Thing_Description

Ege: scroll to the bottom of the page and it will tell you where we are in the review queue.
... they make no warranties about order of review.

Kaz: WRT to the web design effort, need to keep working with MarComm about the WoT Landing page https://www.w3.org/WoT/.

Sebastian: suggest we talk about that on our Thursday Marketing call.
... scripting?

Zoltan: review suggests that continued improvments.
... there is coordination needed with the TD spec.
... challenge is "what do we implement?" If the schema isn't in the list, what do we do?
... WRT future work, increasing interest in scripting (e.g., EcoG)

McCool: we need to keep recording these use cases.

Sebastian: security?
... I know there are new issues.

McCool: we need to continue to go through the PR comments, clean up privacy sections, etc.

Sebastian: thing description?
... last week we had a special guest, Lucas Bonvin.
... he gave a presentation about cloud.io, and how TD makes sense for cloud use.
... great to see that the hard work we are doing is getting a lot of attention on the outside.
... there is still an open issue about "content type" - please comment on pull requests.

AOB

Sebastian: no other topics? So we adjourn. No TD call on Friday.

Adjourned.