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<Joshue108> JS: Need input from Judy before we go to CFC about the polyfils
<Joshue108> JB: I've nothing new to add.
<Joshue108> JS: Then we should go on hold.
<Joshue108> SH: I understood the same.
<Joshue108> JS: We have some preference for the penultimate version, where we try to satisfy some of Doms concerns.
<Joshue108> We may need people to read both.
<jasonjgw> Janina suggests we should compare and decide between the two most recent drafts.
<jasonjgw> Josh suggests we wish to flag that there are interim implementations, and that they are technically feasible.
Ultimate draft is here:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rqtf/2019Oct/0014.html
Penultimate draft is here:
<Joshue108> JW: I had hoped to come back to the use cases document also.
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rqtf/2019Oct/0009.html
Dom's last email on the subject:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rqtf/2019Oct/0013.html
<Joshue108> <agreement about the term polyfil being problematic if widely understood term>
<Joshue108> <josh draft>
<Joshue108> At the time of this publication, gateways that enable effective RTT support in
<Joshue108> WebRTC clients can be developed e.g. through a custom WebRTC data channel.
<Joshue108> This is deemed sufficient until
<Joshue108> such time as future standardized gateways are enabled via IETF protocols such as the SCTP data channel protocol and RFC 4103 Real-time text. This will need to be defined at IETF in conjunction with related work at W3C groups to effectively and consistently standardise RTT support internationally.
sh: Praise for Josh getting the language updated so promptly!
jgw: Moving to use cases doc
...
... asks for update
jo: Have a couple things to
discuss
... need to discuss before editing the doc
... also need to talk process with Michael
... Think it's pretty much ready go as an FPWD
... Already a well reviewed draft
... I'm OK with that? Any different opinion?
jgw: Perhaps a quick local review to make sure we're ready for FPWD?
jo: Current doc is loaded with
hrefs, more wiki format
... Need to move to a working doc format
... Could have editorial review as part of that migration
js: +1 to doc format
<jasonjgw> Janina supports developing it on note track.
jgw: I would prefer to wait for
the reformat before reviewing for CfC posting
... So reformat; review; then CfC
<jasonjgw> Janina now has minutes from the relevant meeting at TPAC.
---Web Authentication & CAPTCHA Turing Testing (at the bottom of) https://www.w3.org/2019/09/20-webauthn-minutes.html
<jasonjgw> Janina is interested in the potential of Web authentication work to make interactive CAPTCHA unnecessary.
<Joshue108> JS: Users need protection from third parties.
<jasonjgw> Janina suggests APA should clarify what is requested and offering to assist.
<jasonjgw> Janina notes an error in the CAPTCHA document regarding internationalization support in CAPTCHA implementations.
<jasonjgw> Janina (responding to Scott): it's relatively easy to fix as an erratum, but testing it (with Google's ReCAPTCHA) is more complicated.
<jasonjgw> Scott suggests clarifying that there are multiple implementations.
<Joshue108> JW: So if we wish to refer to RECAPTCHA as something that does that we need verification..
<Joshue108> JS: There may be an issue with using multiple..
<Joshue108> as there may not be more than 2.
<Joshue108> SH: Limited implementations?
<Joshue108> JS: Thats good!
jgw: Want to ask Josh any specific questions we should address now?
<Joshue108> WebXR Standards and Accessibility Architecture Issues
jo: Took primer doc and changed
it renaming it
... Closer to what the doc actually does, should be more
useful
<Joshue108> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/WebXR_Standards_and_Accessibility_Architecture_Issues
jo: Believe it's tighter and
closer to our purpose
... still more to tweak, but getting there
jgw: Please ping when ready for next review
jo: Not quite to the point of
merging this doc into XAUR, but still considering that
... At a conf in UK next week
jgw: Away on the 30th
js: And the first week in November is the Workshop in Seattle
jgw: So we'll meet 23rd, but not 30th or Nov 6
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