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12 Sep 2019

Attendees

Present
Wilco, Jean-Yves, Dagfinn, Daniel
Regrets
Chair
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Scribe
Bryn

Contents


AGENDA ITEM, Final call https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+label%3A%22Final+call%22

https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pull/848

Wilco to take a look at No-auto play at Bry's request

AGENDA ITEM, Reviewers wanted https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+review%3Arequired+

Is it really necessary to make all test asset paths relative?

This will invalidate a lot of data that we already have e.g. trusted tester stuff

Wilco votes not to do this... Jean Yves doesn't know... Wilco needs to take it up with Kasper

<Wilco> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pull/822

<Jey> Suggestion is to have a test for the test-assets wrongly referenced, rather than change any url to relative in PR - https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pull/887

Dagfin to review https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pull/822

Reviewers wanted for https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pull/447 which also needs discussion with Wilco and Jeav-Yves

<Wilco> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pull/245

https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pull/419 Wilco to review

Citing HTML spec: v5.2 or WHATWG? #879

<Wilco> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/879

Disagreement on which version of the spec we should cite

Kasper and Wilco should talk says Jean-Yves

Some spec will get slowly deprecated which is not ideal

Wilco's understanding is that w3c will continue to publish versions of the HTML spec

Not sure how frequently versions will change

Wilco is strongly in favour of w3c spec is that its required by the ACT rules format

If we link to docs or specs that change we need to track those changes in the rules

That is why linking to the newest version is a more manageable solution... wilco to follow up with kasper

Shadi says snapshots will link to the working group versions

Not availible yet but this is the future plan

Difference in implementation outcomes by partners #850

<Wilco> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/850

<Wilco> https://act-rules.github.io/testcases/9eb3f6/f1b3be194f69c6f222f53cfd46cad299d94c8445.html

Should we be ignoring the entire test result for a check if an implimenter doesn't provide a definitive answer to one of the test cases

If not all test cases have a result then the implimentation is not complete

<Jey> https://act-rules.github.io/pages/implementations/mapping/

Curently we allow untested on inapplicable... but this is not good practice. Untested should be allowed on all types

scribe: all types be passed and failed

RGAA is stricter and checks beyound WCAG and that should be factored in for implementations that challenge ACT

Jey to talk to Audrey about this

Reduce the Final Call period to 1 week #844

<Wilco> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/844

Kasper and Jean-Yves disagree with shortening the FC to 1 week

Rules take a long time to write so why cut the 2 week review to 1

Wilco would like to propose that we reduce FC for updates

Jean-Yves agrees depending on the update

Use commonsense for judging magnitude of change and state review period as part of the update

Could update PR template to include FC period

Wilco to take this

Combobox owned elements shouldn't require an accessible name (f0c5c5, e086e5) #826

Hang on, jumped ahead to quickly there

any objections to the previous proposal

Jey suggests using labels for 1 week or 2 weeks

<Wilco> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/826

Not clear as to if a combo box should or should not have an accessible name

Do we want to put an exception for combo boxes into our rules

Wilco can provide test data if needed

if we can show that a combo box not having an accessible name is not a WCAG failure then can we exclude combo box from failing

Wilco to provide test data so we can make a decision to move forward one way or the other

When are "Authors" deprecated? #799

<Wilco> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/799

W3c differentiates between authors and contributers

Wilco likes idea of previous authors field

but at what point do you say you are not the current author

Shadi suggests author is the person primarily leading the process

<Jey> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/blob/develop/_rules/html-has-lang-b5c3f8.md

<Jey> Here is an example

<Wilco> https://act-rules.github.io/rules/bf051a

<Jey> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/blob/develop/_rules/html-xml-lang-match-5b7ae0.md

<Jey> another one

Jean Yves took over a rule from Anne which has now changed drastically - should Anne still be listed as the author

He is fine keeping them but both contributors consent would be required

Shadi says this is a clear case of previous and current or new author

Wilco has a proposal... add fields to front matter for previous author, current author, contributor

It would be up to reviewers additionally to spot new authors and flag this as part of the review process

Wilco to Jey: we can add a couple of fields

Dagfin agrees that old authors that haven't contributed to major changes should not be listed anymore

Final thoughts...

lots of agenda items worked through today, looking forward to Copenhagen

Wilco - changing meeting date for October 10 which is now moving to Oct 17

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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