<Judy> clear agenda
<CharlesL> scribe: CharlesL
JB: next meeting Sept 25th.
CL: Charles & George won't be able to attend, we have in person meetings that week.
JS: I won't be able to attend either.
JB: still next meeting on
25th.
... now have a lot of work in these documents & graphics,
just went live a couple of days ago.
... frequently asked for. different than a standard but it is
practical guidance.
... it is worth taking note on non-standardized likewise from
COGA for providing guidance.
... Steve you an Shawn may want to talk about this.
<Judy> scribe: Judy
CLP: Just got this link. Looks
very interesting. Related to some of the Diagram Center
audio-video best practices. One of my projects is updating our
guidance with input from Kim Patch such as fully accessible and
exportable searching of video.
... this looks great.
<CharlesL> scribe: Charles
<scribe> scribe: Judy
jb: did you know about this? did we miss a step?
CLP: didn't know about it. Maybe
have more than one avenue to get info out. Best practices --
that's important --
... for instance, VR and AR work -- if we're working on that,
need to get the work out through multiple channels -- need to
let people know -- particular when it crosses domains(!)
<CharlesL> scribe: CharlesL
JB: Steve also didn't know so we may need better coordination efforts
<shawn_> [ announcement to CC list https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-cc/2019Aug/0003.html:-)]
JB: making sure that the
crossover has clear communication channels to promote materials
and efforts that is being worked on so everyone knows that
these documents / efforts exist and to keep an eye out
for
... any other announcements? Publications?
... there is a resource model that we have that could be of
use.
Rachel: Michael did a great first round but I may need further help. Thanks
JB: Shawn just joined. media resource looking great, but some folks may have missed that this work was being done. Its easy for people to miss it if its only in one place. so multiple channels would be good.
CL: Yes agreed.
Shawn: what other channels would be useful?
<Judy> scribe: Judy
<shawn_> new resources: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-cc/2019Sep/0001.html
CLP: there are only a few people on this email list. For myself, just started on these emails and calls the last few months. Don't know why not invited earlier. There's many different accessibility TFs throughout W3C and the people on diff lists may not be tracking this.
<CharlesL> scribe: CharlesL
<Judy> ...relevant things that affect accessibility that are cross-disability where best practices are needed, we're all working on related things, for instance at Benetech
Shawn: not sure how else to do it…
JB: 1. I think we are good on
bringing chairs/cochairs but we have missed TF
co-facilitators.
... I will do a current check on that.
... so much of our work is being done in TF's we need to make
sure if there are two co-chairs one is on this call similar
with facilitators.
<Zakim> shawn_, you wanted to note that the list is also publicly archived and to say also public "what is WAI working on" is on my To Do list...
JB: , may need to push more to TF lists, but that my be too much noise.
Shawn: This list is publicly
archived. easy to share.
... on my todo list page of what WAI is working on now… I hope
to have a draft of that shortly.
JB: Charles there are about 20 on this list.
<shawn_> +1 for sending to the list (and for us to watch the list :-)
JB: WG and TF Level and many have two folks but if people are tracking this… apart from mentioning in a meeting when you send something to the list then a will get more people actually seeing it. we may need to create more noise.
Charles, when you do your work in the DIAGRAM center and referencing stuff please talk with Shawn, and others.
Shawn: in the spirit of early
mentioning EO is in the early stages on work related to a11y
online learning.
... I will send the link to this work.
<shawn_> ccessible Online Learning Resources -- https://github.com/w3c/wai-eo-online-learning/wiki/Requirements-Analysis
Shawn: exploring CG doing a lot of work on this and they have some more specifics now and Access Learn CG chairs & EO chairs etc.
JB: should send a note about.
<Zakim> shawn_, you wanted to mention AccessLearn and Publishing
Shawn: what we may want to do about A11Y Publishing issues
JB: we will need to make sure
that is coordinated with George, Tzviya and the Publisher WG
chairs etc.
... , send those things in the pipeline to the list.
... there are several things a11y guidelines WG charter is out
for comment.
... already gotten some support :)
... I would like to send out the charter for for community FYI.
There are a few others the ACT rules for proposed rec.
... Silver requirements doc many rounds of review/comment but
community hasn't seen them so a FYI and call for comment.
... COGA documents are moving along, but not sure if timing is
best to send those out at the same time.
... question I have is: similar to ARIA / APA James is there
interesting stuff in ARIA to tell the community about?
James: Not a lot ARIA annotations we have a soon to be FPWD.
JB: timing? to tell the world you are working on this?
James: I think we should wait for
ARIA to decide if the ARIA is happy on publishing this
document.
... few months maybe we will discuss at TPAC.
JB: APA Janina, what about
Personalization / Pronunciation.
... We haven't done a lot of this, we have been focusing on
other WG with others at TPAC, we can do general followup after
TPAC.
<Zakim> shawn_, you wanted to say sent to WAI-announce and to WAI-IG (but not archived on the latter sorry)
Shawn: we did send
personalization WAI IG a while ago. and send out on
pronunciation just today
... should hear from email today to this list Roy will also
bring to the TF that there is a Pronunciation Overview page is
done and we will want to tweak that and learn what it is all
about.
... we did WAI-IG list and now a new announce list. Emails goes
to both lists but they are only on announced archive
<shawn_> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-announce/
JB: another angle to get the word
out, that we are missing opportunities for the broader
communities. TF and WG pages, and announcement sections are
blank.
... show your work in announcement section not only in Wiki
JB: folks starting to travel in the next few days. any loose ends can take care of?
Janina: no response to immersive web, plenty from Silver / ARIA / TAG responsive but not the working group itself. Yes it went to both co-chairs.
JB: can you fwd it please both Dom and Ada are responsive.
Janina: maybe I lost a responce, we have a few days since APA meets Thursday.
JB: please fwd to me and we can make sure it gets resolved.
Janina: I will do my best.
JB: queries about EO? they won't
be at TPAC.
... related topic for people who won't be there special TF's
people you are trying to connect with you are welcome to raise
those.
Janina: yes thats what I meant I will fwd them.
<Judy> s/Janian/Janina/
JB: there is remote
participation, but timezone could be a problem
... , W3C equivalent to (no sleep) :)
JB: , inclusive web workshop
announced! getting good # of registrations.
... , inclusive design Seattle Nov 5/6 this will input into the
WG
... I may be attending.
<scribe> … continued work from the Verizon conference earlier this year.
JB: multiple objectives that make
it interesting to gather climate change issues and what tech
field can help with this.
... Carbon computing more efficient etc.
... web itself produces a lot of carbon, crypto currenty
etc.
International conferences consumes a lot of carbon.
scribe: different kinds of
conferences (flight shaming)
... few organizations build go beyond getting on a call / video
conference multi dimensional mix of modalities large/small
groups side breakout meetings etc.
... interested if anyone wants to discuss this further,
barriers for travel cost etc. to attend these international
conferences.
Charles: were you thinking of dual conference at the same time say North America and Japan...
JB: no but this is a possibility, one TPAC per year, we get a lot of positive feedback others are wondering if we can have 2 a year possibly a virtual one.
Rachael, traveling is hard, a virtual TPAC would be great
JB: are you going to TPAC?
Rachael: not this year,
JB: I can help with W3C be more accommodating
James: we would need something far better than what we are using with WebEx
JB: right, I am glad you said that, that is a concern. Getting a better foundation could increase virtualization
<Zakim> jamesn, you wanted to say that as w3c we need far better conferencing software in order to go this path
JB: Janina on longdesc, there were some followup actions for us right?
Janina: I am not remembering at
the moment.
... , Judy needs to have a call with Philippe.
JB: anything else to share?
Janina: I am planning to discuss with CSS WG original promises supporting users needs with CSS.
JB: joint meeting?
Janina: Yes tuesday at 11, if you
can attend Judy that would be awesome.
... , dual identity participating with Silver, why are we
thinking of Best Practices when we could have technology
solutions.
JB: thanks everyone see everyone who will be at TPAC
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