Silver Community Group Teleconference

27 Aug 2019


jeanne, Chuck, janina, KimD, CharlesHall, Makoto, johnkirkwood


Update from people working on functional user needs updates

Chuck: We are meeting tomorrow. It is in progress

Charles: No update

Janina: Silver is invited to APA at TPAC, probably Friday morning will be dedicated to XR. I will know by Friday.

Bruce: I have a link to the EN document that maps all the SC to Functional Needs. I extracted the relevant parts from the doc.

<CharlesHall> here is a list of just the relevant functional statements http://mandate376.standards.eu/standard/functional-statements

Jeanne: I think it will be helpful.
... we have to remember there are functional needs that aren't in the EN301 list, like vestibular disabilities

<KimD> That's my question too - whether we have a list of our own functional needs

<CharlesHall> seems chicken and egg

Jeanne: we also need to be careful about the cognitive disability in EN301 because they are all lumped together. They don't have the granularity of the physical disabilities.

<bruce_bailey> The web version that CharlesHall listed is excellent but...


<bruce_bailey> (1) I am not sure it is the most current version (v2.1.1, 2018-02)

<bruce_bailey> (2) It does not include the annexes

<bruce_bailey> Link to current PDF version of EN 301 549 is: https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/301500_301599/301549/02.01.02_60/en_301549v020102p.pdf

<bruce_bailey> Annex B, relationship between requirements (WCAG 2.1 SC) and functional performance statements, starts on p. 83.

<bruce_bailey> Oops, current version of EN 301 549 is v2.1.2, 2018-08

<bruce_bailey> Annex B starts on page 88 of the PDF -- and the print page number does match the PDF page number.

<johnkirkwood> can't take advantage of tools like resize, spacing, voice assistant reading of text while

<johnkirkwood> don't use images of text.

<johnkirkwood> color blindness as well.

SC 142 Audio Control & 2.2.4 Interruptions

<johnkirkwood> very good point Janina!

<bruce_bailey> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W5CSvU4XxWXNneu4ibokjcYUCsG386xL1rGOiTrDvt8/edit#gid=1061857871&range=A1

<bruce_bailey> Link to GoogleSheet version of Annex B excerpt:

<KimD> (working together as a group on SC 1.4.4 Resize text, SC 1.4.5 Images of Text, SC 1.4.9 Images of Text (No Exception), SC 1.4.8 Visual Presentation, SC 1.4.12 Text Spacing)

<bruce_bailey> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W5CSvU4XxWXNneu4ibokjcYUCsG386xL1rGOiTrDvt8/edit#gid=1834752082&range=A1

<johnkirkwood> Janinina mad point to overlapping audio interactions

<johnkirkwood> made point that audio interactions of competing voices requesting input such as 'press one' can compete with assistive technology.

<johnkirkwood> was that right

<KimD> And that when there's one audio stream, it's nearly impossible to cognitively separate the combined audio stream.

<KimD> ... When two audio streams, it may be possible to separate and understand.

<KimD> (my recollection)

Bruce: - explaining codes in the spreadsheet - from EN 301 549

<Makoto> This is very helpful. Thanks Bruce!

Bruce: Cautions that I don't know if this document had wide review.

Summary of Action Items

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